All martial arts (by definition) have physical contact between practice partners at some point in their training (ie increasing levels determined by skill/rank). There are hundreds of different arts eg Judo, Karate, Kung-Fu Wu-Shu, Tae Kwan Do, Tai Chi Ch'uan, Aikido, Ba Gwa Cheng, Hwrang Do, Kenjutsu, Hsing-Yi, AikiJujitsu, etc., etc.

Each has a particular technical base, certain "tools" fundamentally which they prefer to use. Some arts strike (punch, kick), some grapple, others "wrestle", some pin. Heavy physical contact is likely at some juncture it is safe to assume.

My particular question, are PUMPS compatable to arts where heavy physical contact is certain to occur (ie grappling, throwing, "submissions")?

Any other martial artists (with some diabetes experience: ) in membership???

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Hello Josh:

Apologies for the late reply. The purpose of a pump is to wear them, NOT disconnect from the things right!? What kind of tubing precautions do you propose....??? You folks work in much closer then many, as a technical-distance preference...

ROFL... and btw that's not fair injecting your practice partner, DURING SPARRING 8 D. (Like the idea though.. (gentle teasing))

Look forward to hearing when time allows,
Stuart

I suppose an update is in order Stuart.

I've actually been able to get back into BJJ, albeit in a more limited capacity. I started a club at my school and will occasionally roll with the kids. I haven't lost a pod to contact yet, even in a fairly drawn out match with another teacher who is much more advanced than me.

What I discovered is that less is more when it comes to trying to protect my pod, placement is everything, and the real enemy of pod adhesion is sweat and humidity.

So placement on my back is best, with the pod strapped down with just a couple of strips of Opsite, and I have to air out my Jiujitu gi pretty frequently.

Great to hear from you.... thanks for the updating!

Thar was always one of my major problems. As a technical matter we do not grapple or standing grapple the way you jujitsu/judo folks do. Even so partner/solo, the pump would always fly off like some kind of spastic throwing star. Something would always get caught, or the set would stop sticking (taped down as if it were a bullet wound) heck even solo warm up exercises, basic technique warm ups.... Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Starting a club is a wonderful thing... what planted that seed? Always nice to hear there are other diabetic martial arts teachers, diabetic sensei out here too... always thought the parallels were scary complimentary (ie between martial arts practice and diabetes).

Look forward to hearing more!
Stuart

Np Stuart,

As with most extra-curricular activities, it was a few kids at school who really wanted to start up the club and I had talked enough about BJJ that they asked me to sponsor. Turns out, there was another teacher at the school who used to train as well. All we needed from there was the go-ahead from the principal and he's been very supportive. We, come at it more from a self-defense angle than the UFC angle, so we are extremely selective about what we teach and practice.

Hello FHS:

Thank you for sharing! What's wrong with teaching kids how to apply chokes effectively...lol.

I am curious, you have the same ZERO tolerance policy everybody else has re: bullying, violence, etc. And should by all means, conceptually anyway.

I am curious how did you bypass the paradox of self-defense when the concept (much less the physical act) "violence" is not permitted to begin with? I get this one all the time, and am interested how others present-deflect that paradox?

Stuart

I can't say that self-defense is not permitted at school. We try to instruct kids regarding as many ways as possible to avoid confrontation, but when every option has been exhausted, what's a kid supposed to do? It is recognized that, on occasion, it may not be able to be avoided.

As far as "violence" goes, our PE classes actually has a boxing unit so the physical nature of any self-defense doesn't necessarily have to be applied as violence towards another individual. It's the difference between shooting bullets at a paper target and shooting bullets at a human being. One desn't necessarily lead to the other, right?

With BJJ it's really easy because we are teaching the kids how to subdue an aggressor without actually throwing a punch. The idea, hypothetically, is to protect yourself without having to cause permanent physical harm to your opponent. Really, for the first month, all we did was teach kids how to escape from harm, for example, chokes, headlocks, being grabbed in various ways, etc. Then, we taught the kids how to gain the upper hand from those situations.

We are four months in and the kids and the kids are starting to get the hang of just grappling. They are much better at defending themselves while we as instructors try various attacks.

Good to hear of your success my friend. Lost two programs I've had for several years recently with admin changes at the board/schools. Their theoretical reason they did not want to endorse violence. They denied the difference between self-protection, building confidence, and physically harming other students.

To them protection and attack were identical. Idiotic but a byproduct of brain dead zero tolerance policies. Don't get me wrong, if kids require what you or I are teaching them at the physical level a whole bunch of other things got severely missed and should have been used first.

Out smart, out run, then and only with no other choice only then physically protect.

Sigh...

Stuart

Anybody in membership practicing Chinese martial arts? "Neijia" practices; Tai Chi Chuan, Hsing Yi, Pakua, Ba Gwa, etc.? There are other "internal" arts and practices but seeking some who practice Chinese arts in particular for the moment...

Just like to say I practice competitive BJJ, and I could not imagine training with a pump. Im on novorapid and levemir pens so managing it from a physical perspective is relatively easy. I did, taekwondo for 8 years, krav maga for 2 and for everyone of theses sports aggressive sparring was part and parcel. (sparring happens to be my favorite part). We do alot of wrestling for nogi jiu jitsu and I have to say I just don't see how it would be possible to spar in a high intensity/contact grappling sport with an pump attached but I would be very interested to hear from anyone who is pumping and practicing a grappling art.

Stuart---I have always enjoyed following this group, even though I don't post here often. Just wanted to let you know that I am persevering through some nasty complications after knee replacement surgery that have considerably slowed my reovery. And this past week, besides re-teaching my leg how to go up and down stairs, I am delighted to find my muscle memory for Tai Chi kicked in---and I got to warm up and do a first run through in my living room with the front door open on a gorgeous spring day that fed my spirit with birdsong and flowering bulbs. It was Beauty Manifest, indeed. Blessings to all!...Judith in Portland

That's awesome! We'd have class outside occasionally with one of the groups I used to work out with. The setting sun was great!

Hello ACidrock123:

Like practicing outside too, never was a fan of the gawking crowds that often gather though ; ).

Stuart

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