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Permalink Reply by BadShoe on August 6, 2008 at 3:11pm

I demo wore one last week at FFL. From what I hear they are moving all now production to the Ping and all new orders are shipping as Ping. Not sure you have a choice.

The benefit is it talks to the meter, the down side is it talks to the meter. We could see an upside for our daughter and wearing a dress. The remote control would make that easier but other than that....

It is the same pump as a 2020 but the food database has moved out to the meter. Same food database interface, IHMO that is bad because I like the food database idea but think the implementation is so poor it is unusable.

The screen of the Ping is great, as great as it is the screen on the meter is bad. If you do the pink thing the way it is designed you drive the pump from the meter screen and so what is the point of the nice clear screen on the pump?

From everything I can tell it will require an upgrade to talk to a dexcom when that happens next summer. (See http://ydmv.blogspot.com/2008/08/from-news-wire-dexcom-on-animas-an... for info on that process from dexcom's earnings call 8/5/08)

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Permalink Reply by BadShoe on August 6, 2008 at 6:57pm

I wrote more at http://ydmv.blogspot.com/2008/08/to-ping-two.html

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Permalink Reply by Toni Crebbin on August 6, 2008 at 7:08pm

Thanks so much for your feedback. So would your choice be the 2020 over the ping (It is still an option)? I'm not sure how much I would use the remote, and I don't particularly want a bigger pump. Is the 2020 bigger than the 1200 too, or is it the same?

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Permalink Reply by BadShoe on August 6, 2008 at 7:18pm

The 1200, 1250 and 2020 are all the same size. The Ping is maybe 1/4 inch longer.

The real issue IMHO is that the PINGII with DexCom CGM for whiter whites and brighter colors from your wash is due out next summer. Now that is gonna be more interesting. BUT Animas now that they are J&J charges out the wazoo for upgrades so is what are they willing to do to get your business now, give you a fix cost for the upgrade next year? Worth asking about.

I also wore a CosMore. It had cool internal menus and software features. Maybe worth a look. They are in the process of hooking up with Abbott's Navigator but they aren't there yet either.

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Permalink Reply by Toni Crebbin on August 6, 2008 at 7:22pm

I already where a Dex, so was planning on staying with Animas. I thought the 2020 was going to hook up with the Dex too, but maybe I'm wrong.

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Permalink Reply by BadShoe on August 6, 2008 at 7:42pm

Nobody is saying boo about how Dex and Animas will play together. Well nobody at Animas. They were real clear that the current stuff doesn't.

The pump will need some kind of communication capability. Only the Ping can communicate. And it need to deal with a lot of data the Dex will create. I think the 2020 only did 500 bg data points. 500 is nothing in a data point every 5 minutes world of CGM. 20 per hour x 24 hours = 480 data points a day.

It maybe that the meter becomes the middleman talking to the dex transmitter and the pump. Who knows. How long do you have on your warranty period?

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Permalink Reply by Toni Crebbin on August 6, 2008 at 7:59pm

My last warranty was up July 31, and that was a 4 year warranty. Originally my pump was supposed to have shipped this week, but when I inquired today, they aren't sure when. That's when I realized it was the ping, and so I was talking with the rep who said I could chose between the two, but he had assumed I wanted the ping.

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Permalink Reply by Mick on August 6, 2008 at 8:09pm

I saw the ping and thought it was a nice product. I think the people it will really benefit are people who want to keep their pump some place inaccessible. I see it as a nice 1st step towards the type of data you can get from the paradigm system but with a better CGM and pump. My only complaint is that you are again obligated to use a one touch meter.

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Permalink Reply by BadShoe on August 7, 2008 at 5:18am

Unless the food database in the pump is something you need. I would get a ping on the theroy that the upgrade path to a pump working with your Dex is cheaper next year form Ping than from 2020.

I would also ask you rep for a note Commiting to an upgrade price to the Dex/Animas since Dex was talking about it being with in a year. The chance to make a deal come up once every 4 years. May as well try.

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Permalink Reply by Toni Crebbin on August 7, 2008 at 8:25pm

I emailed the rep today and here was his reply as to the upgrade price:
Honestly they have not discussed that option as of yet. I know there will be one but no details have been release so far. I can definitely keep you posted as soon as word comes out though.

Permalink Reply by Susan Van Abs on November 15, 2008 at 12:05pm

I questioned Animas about their ridiculous upgrade costs. I was told that the reason they charge a lot more than Medtronic does, is that they send a brand new pump not a refurbished one.

Personally, for an upgrade, I'd prefer a less expensive option since I'm paying for it out of pocket. It seems ridiculous to me to pay $1K for an upgrade with only one year on the warranty. If they were extending the warranty by a year, then I would be happy they are sending me a brand new pump!

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Permalink Reply by Korin on August 24, 2008 at 6:02am

Hi I know I am a little late on this but I wanted to tell you.....My 4 year old Shelby uses the 2020 we got it last year in June. We have had 4 new pumps in a year due to a soft wear glitch and then they just die about 3 months into us having it.....animas is great about replacing them but it makes it hard. I have heard good things about the new Ping but I have not used one yet. I would hope to upgrade in a year or so for my daughter. Not all of the pumps have the glitch it has been about 5 months since we have had to switch out our pump and I am keeping my fingers crossed we got a good one this time!

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