A little frustrated
On Saturday I tried a little experiment with some food. I had a roast beef sandwich on rye bread and tested myself before and after. I had some lettuce, cheddar cheese and cucumber on the sandwich also. I drank a full glass of water just before and a full glass of water right after eating.
My numbers on Saturday were 104 (before) and then 111 at 1 hour. I though great! This has to be good? But I just did the same test with exactly the same sandwich/water and before, 106 and just now at the 1 hour mark I'm 214?
I don't understand? How can my body react so differently (over 100 diff) to the exact same food on 2 different days?
I tested twice so it cant be the test strip.
BTW. I'm type 2 (or LADA) and on no medication or shots.
Thanks for any help.
My numbers on Saturday were 104 (before) and then 111 at 1 hour. I though great! This has to be good? But I just did the same test with exactly the same sandwich/water and before, 106 and just now at the 1 hour mark I'm 214?
I don't understand? How can my body react so differently (over 100 diff) to the exact same food on 2 different days?
I tested twice so it cant be the test strip.
BTW. I'm type 2 (or LADA) and on no medication or shots.
Thanks for any help.
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Permalink Reply by Gerri on -
Frustrating & unpredictable when you're LADA.
With LADA, if this is what you are, the pancreas is still producing some insulin. It happens in spurts. You had some of your own insulin to cover the first experiment, but none the second time.
Not that this is any consolation, but we all experience different results eating the same exact thing.
What were your readings at 2 hours after these meals?
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Permalink Reply by Paul Curwen on -
Thanks Gerri,
I was 109 at the 2 hour mark on Saturday. I'll test at 3 today and post my 2 hr number.
The only thing I did different this morning was to go for a 35min jog at 9:30. But since my numbers were the same before each test I don't think this could have played a factor?
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Permalink Reply by Paul Curwen on
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I just tested and I'm back to 140. But its just a little frustrating when trying to create a diet of foods and they can be off by so much.
Maybe it warrants a third test or maybe I should just write any kind of bread out :(
Makes me wonder if any of my other meal tests (which I thought were good) actually spike me?
Maybe by the time I'm actually diagnosed as LADA I'll have a good handle on all of this stuff ;(
Paul
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Permalink Reply by Gerri on
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I'd pass on bread. Grains are notorious for highs.
What's happening with your diagnosis? Did your doctor do more tests?
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Permalink Reply by Paul Curwen on
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Hi Gerri,
I gave up discussing it with my current Dr as she had to write LADA down on a notepad so I probably know more than she does.
My Cardiologist has been the only one to acknowledge that I don't fit the typical profile of a type 2 and he agrees I am probably LADA (or an anomaly ;) )... He told at this point, with my last a1c test currently at 6 there isn't a lot to do but monitor my numbers. I just had blood work which included an a1c so will find out next week what that is. I would love to crack the 5 scale ;)
I think I will have to reluctantly pass on the bread but I do love a nice sandwich ;( Its just hard at times when the rest of family are devouring sandwiches and such...
Paul
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Permalink Reply by Gerri on
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You do know more than your doctor. Your cardiologist can order tests. Would be helpful to know where you stand.
Check out Linda's Diet Delites for Healthwise breads. Healthwise makes zero net carb bread & rolls. Their nutritional label is actually certified, unlike others.
Healthwise has absolutely no effect on my BG. I've tried other allegedly low carb breads & they were a scam. Low carb bread is on the dry side, but it's better than nothing. Tastes better heated or toasted. Healthwise dinner rolls are my favorite of their offerings, but the hambuger buns are good also. Healthwise has healthy ingredients as well. They also make a low carb bread (in addition to their zero net carb bread). You could probably handle it without problem.
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Permalink Reply by Treharne on -
Here is a great "fake bread" ... that I love .. I add different spices to it.. or if I want fake gingerbread ... ginger... ( and so on)
Prep Time: 15 minutes
Cook Time: 20 minutes
Total Time: 35 minutes
Ingredients:
2 cups flax seed meal
1 Tablespoon baking powder
1 teaspoon salt
1-2 Tablespoons sugar equivalent from artificial sweetener
5 beaten eggs
1/2 cup water
1/3 cup oil
Preparation:
Preheat oven to 350 F. Prepare pan (a 10X15 pan with sides works best) with oiled parchment paper or a silicone mat.
1) Mix dry ingredients well -- a whisk works well.
2) Add wet to dry, and combine well. Make sure there aren't obvious strings of egg white hanging out in the batter.
3) Let batter set for 2 to 3 minutes to thicken up some (leave it too long and it gets past the point where it's easy to spread.)
4) Pour batter onto pan. Because it's going to tend to mound in the middle, you'll get a more even thickness if you spread it away from the center somewhat, in roughly a rectangle an inch or two from the sides of the pan (you can go all the way to the edge, but it will be thinner).
5) Bake for about 20 minutes, until it springs back when you touch the top and/or is visibly browning even more than flax already is.
6) Cool and cut into whatever size slices you want. You don't need a sharp knife; I usually just cut it with a spatula.
Nutritional Information: Each of 12 servings has less than a gram of effective carbohydrate (.7 grams to be exact) plus 5 grams fiber, 6 grams protein, and 185 calories.
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Permalink Reply by Terry Keelan on -
If it's not the unpredictable production of insulin as Gerri says, it's some other variable.
It might be the fact that it's a work day. I think it's possible that your morning run had an effect. BG can rise four or five hours after strenuous exercise. It might be what you had for breakfast.
But I'm just speculating. Only scrupulous log keeping would identify the culprit(s), but even then - maybe not.
It's certainly an illustration of how frustrating this all is.
Terry
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Permalink Reply by Paul Curwen on
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Hi Terry,
Breakfast was exactly the same so I don't think it could have been that. Exercise has always lowered my numbers so I find it hard to believe the jog was a factor.
I work from home and have been staring at my monitor all morning but would have been walking around on Sat... But 100+ points?
Another set of notes for my D notebook...
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Permalink Reply by Paul Curwen on
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I may have found the culprit...
I always have a protein shake (28g protein) with my breakfast and just realized that on Saturday I had breakfast/shake at about 10am and then the sandwich at 1pm about 3 hours later. When I had the sandwich yesterday it was 6 hours after breakfast which I usually have at 7am on weekdays.
Is it possible that the protein from the shake offset the carbs on Saturday?
Thanks Paul
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