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Recently was going to take over a Diabetic Meetup in LA area but felt it would be too much for me to handle. I recieved mail from Type 1 diabetics that made it bluntly known they really didn't want nothing to do with Type 2 diabetics. Obviously, being a LARGE AND IN CHARGE TYPE 2 DIABETIC....... I was slightly offended.

I have noticed on other sites and even on this site there are some attitude differences between Type 1 and TYPE 2. I don't understand why? I know the treatments maybe different. And I do understand that Type 1 diabetiecs are long time sufferers of this ailment. But to be so mean and not want discuss your experiences with a TYPE 2 diabetic is ridiculous.

I personally take ownership of the fact that I caused myself to develop diabetesthrough unhealthy eating and lack of physical activity. Actually had a fun time doing it...Now that I am wiser I am doing my best to live with it and exercise. Isn't that what ALL DIABETICS SHOULD BE DOING???

Please help me understand & give me your thoughts. I want a decent discussion about this. I am not trying to play favorites.

Thanks!

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Very nicely writtten

Natalie - Love the "Type Wierd" - that's how I want to define my version of diabetes now :)  Where can I order up a t-shirt?  That'll get lots of discussion going when people see my t-shirt.  BTW, just got off a cruise ship - and when people found out I was a diabetic - and saw my pump - they said that I had "serious diabetes".  I had to set them straight on that one - that you don't have to have to be in bad shape to be on an insulin pump - but it's a choice some of us diabetics go to when we think it'll help us maintain a better life.  I'd say over 50%  of the people on the ship were diabetic - as they all seemed to be curious about the no sugar dessert called "Margarita Mousse" - it was lip smacking good!  Tho' wish I'd known the carb count - I hate having to "guesstimate" on what I'm shoving into my mouth.  I'd hoped to take a break from educating people on diabetes - but I just can't seem to keep my mouth shut when I have to correct people about diabetes and what causes it.  Hopefully they went away better educated (plus I gave them my business card at Diabetes1.org).

Well, there is no T-shirt yet, but maybe we could get Cafe Press to design one! I also want one saying "Powered by Insulin" -- they have one that says "Powered by Glucose", but EVERYONE is powered by glucose, so it doesn't appeal to me.

Type Weird originated many years ago, when the sulfonylureas didn't work for me and I went on insulin about 18 months after diagnosis. I wasn't a classic Type 2, and I wasn't a classic Type 1, and by now, I don't think I'm a LADA, either. I'm a little bit of both and a little bit of neither, so I invented my own box. However, anyone who feels the same way is welcome to join me! (If you want the gory details, I'll write you privately!)

Natalie, please sign me up for a Type Weird t-shirt!

It is a wonder i am not offended by your response about a type 2 "curing" their diabetes. It is just a shame you are so misinformed of a disease that you have had since 1994. It is a shame you will never be cured. But that is not the fault of a type 2. Your comment was thoughless and ignorant. It is I , who is ashamed to be lumped in with my disease, DIABETES with a type 1 with your views.You have a very twisted perspective! Thing is, it will be something you believe no matter how many words I write or how many people reply to your ignorance. There is no hope for u. Instead of fighting with people with your veiws AGAIN and AGAIN, I have chosen to ignore them.. Oh , well I guess I could say the "majority" of ignorance. I made a special case for you.

The word 'disciplined' jumped out at me when re-reading this post.

I recently attended an insulin workshop where I was the only one in the room that was not a true, classic Type 1.

And yes, the true Type 1s, like me (I am Type Weird, somewhere between 1 and 2), had to be disciplined just to keep alive. But it also takes huge discipline and being always on top of things to be a type 2 controlling on diet and exercise alone. The Type 1s I was with all ate a 'normal' diet - cereal for breakfast, sandwiches with potato chips/crisps and chocolate for lunch, pasta/potatoes/rice for dinner. As part of the workshop we did some basal testing and we were asked to eat a carb-free breakfast. Everyone said this wouldn't be possible as they couldn't imagine eating a carb-free breakfast.

 

So that's another thing that unites all types of diabetics - the discipline and responsibility needed to manage their condition, each in the way that is most appropriate to themselves.

Excellent Lila on the discipline and responsibility!  Well said.  We have to almost be like little soldiers to manage our condition - so we're all UNITED :)

Both Type 1s and Type 2s have to control their blood sugars, and the diseases share the same name "diabetes," but otherwise there are huge differences. Medical advice will be different for each, and that includes diet, although it seems a lot of Type 1 adults have adopted a low or lower carb lifestyle.  Exercise for Type 1s is also different and problematic, as exercise makes you more insulin sensitive and lows can be a problem.  But I see no reason why you can't support each other.  Power in numbers.  I think Type 1s should not separate from Type 2s for the selfish reason that politically I don't think Type 1s will have much of an impact, could lose funding.  The ADA does a lot to help Type 1 children re discrimination cases. 

Dear people,

 

I am ASHAMED to be part of a community that makes more personal attacks on other "community" members instead of promoting eduction on a disease we all, in some way or other, share.

As my opinion (regardless of how "right" or "wrong") as well as ME PERSONALLY is GUARANTEED to be attacked on this site no matter what I say unless it is in agreement with the most active and "educated" majority here, I say let the beating commence. Because unlike people who come here with the false sense of solidarity, I have been quite disillusioned and don't care because I am not going to let someone else make me feel bad. I have dealt with ENOUGH bullying in my life to make me a stronger person than that. 

 

Please stop asking for opinions because it only results in the attacking of someone who DARES to share a minority view point or GOD FORBID they misstate something or unintentionally use improper terminology to speak their mind.  

 

Regards,

Jess

Lady, get a mirror.  lol 

Tto which personal attacks are you referring?  You have to pick sides...

 

Really, I'm  interested in the T2 perspective here and was gonna point out that the only cure for T2 is, in fact, T1, b/c I think they are different genes?  I'm very fuzzy about that stuff though and not 100% sure of what the actual cause of T2 is.  I agree w/ 'them' though that it is not curable and the poster who suggested that fully deserves what is coming to her.

Sort of like I deserve it for my low carb remarks.  I've tried it for a couple of days now and will also agree that it doesn't appear that my energy is sapped.  The slow times are entirely due to snow and ice, not any sort of metabolic disaster...WTFOT but sorry!

 

 

I think there is much more guilt associated with Type 2 .  We are told we did this to our selves rather than a disease that just hit us.  Many of us never overate, we always exercised and thought we kept pretty good care of ourselves. It took me a lot of reading about the real causes of insulin resistance and type 2 before I realised I was not to blame.  My endocrine system just cannot handle a normal amount of carbs.  I am only on metformin for the past 4 years and really have to restrict my diet so I don't get huge bg spikes.  But I am willing to do it because even though I was never really overweight, I am down to 113 pounds and feel and look fantastic.  I think it is harder to treat type 2's, because we all have different levels of insulin productions, so our bgs tend to be all over the place.  If I eat more than 15-20 g of carbs I have no idea of what will happen to my bg somedays.  It just depends on wether my pancreas decides to work or not. Type 1 and Type 2 are totally different diseases and it shouldn't be a competition, we each have our own struggles.

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