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Permalink Reply by Ellie on November 19, 2008 at 6:29am

No, I do not use insulin and I have always struggled with the dawn phenomenon. No one seems to know what to do about it. I have tried several things to trick my liver into not giving me that "helpful" boost of glucose before I get up in the morning, but nothing works. I guess the best thing to do is to make sure to eat breakfast as soon as possible in the morning to stop the rising sugars. I know, it's counter-intuitive, but if I don't eat right away (say, when, I'm fasting for blood tests), it just keeps going up and up until I eat something.

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Permalink Reply by debb on November 19, 2008 at 6:58am

i don't use insulin either. i just started eating a handful of nuts abut 9:30 at night. my bs went from around 149 down to 115. i don't know how long it will stay tricked and i don't like eating that late at night but i guess we all do what we have to do.

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Permalink Reply by Kristin on November 19, 2008 at 8:46am

I have heard that eating some green apple before bed helped people to keep their morning numbers down. I think nuts make sense (like Debb suggested) because they digest slowly.

Supposedly if you eat this snack before bed, your liver will kick out less glucose in the morning hours. But people have mixed experiences. I guess it's worth a try!

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Permalink Reply by Angela on November 19, 2008 at 6:18pm

Hi Ladies,

Thanks so much for responding. I will try eating some pistachio nuts tonight before bed. Speaking of which just about that time.

If that doesn't work I wil eat a green apple. I will try anything (just about anything) once. But I usually stay away from fruit as it always makes me hungry and sometime feeling hollow.

Thanks for letting me kow this is common.

My cortisol levels have been high in one of my tests. I wonder if there is an interaction there because cortisol is used during night time and to prepare a person to wake up.


So what I will try is eating around 5-6 with a snack at 9:30 - 10:00. And see what that does...

Normally I eat around 7-8 with or without a dessert type thing (meaning sugar free pudding/jello type dessert)

Again thanks for taking the time!

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Permalink Reply by Judith on November 19, 2008 at 7:04pm

Hey---there's also the Magical Thinking 3 oz of red wine or cider vinegar before bed. I like the wine option and use it regularly, as well as getting up at 4:30 AM to head it off by having a piece of string cheese. These things made a big difference for me---8 months of AMs ranging from 78 to 88.....Keep experimenting. You'll get it!.....

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Permalink Reply by Angela on November 20, 2008 at 7:19pm

Hi Judith,

I was just thinking this.. I have mozorella string cheese that I thinking when I get up to go to the bathroom (I usually get up 2-5 times a night to go to the bathroom) I could eat a small snack and see what happens.

I tried the nuts before bedtime the other night still read the same high...

Never heard the wine theory... And I love vinegar...

I will try those combinations...

The weirdest thing is I would say 60% of my life (38 now) I would always get up and have a small snack or something to drink like milk, when I would wake up to go to the bathroom (that use to be less frequent). I wonder if I was doing this automatically without realizing it.

Thanks for your input :)

Angela

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Permalink Reply by Gerri on November 20, 2008 at 11:56pm

Hi Angela,

Wonder if taking a small amount of basal insulin at night might help. I'm Type 1 & have serious dawn phenomenon. I've really had to play around with doses to get the right basal amount. Too much makes the dawn phenon worse.

Know what you mean about high fasting numbers ruining the whole day. Hate that! Must be worse for Type 2 not on insulin because at least I can take a correction dose to bring it down. I've gone to bed at 90-100 & woken up to 200.

Could be me, but I haven't found vinegar or red wine to help, but worth trying. I do eat a small amount of cheese or peanut butter before bed. This helps me. I also make sure that I eat dinner at least 5-6 hours before going to bed. Like Ellie, I eat as soon as I get up. When I delay breakfast, the numbers climb up.

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Permalink Reply by Angela on November 29, 2008 at 5:52pm

Hi Gerri,

Sorry it took so long. Went to see family for the holiday...

Wow 200... Wholy Cow...You sound like a friend of mine. She is Type I and known as a brittle diabetic. Her blood sugars and soar either way to high or too low within a matter of minutes...

I recently got a 124 FBG but that was because I went to bed at 1:30 AM and woke up at 8:00 AM. 6.5 hours of sleep did it.

Thanks for the information! I am going to test the BG as soon as I get up... I usually do it after a shower and dressing. But I will see what it is upon waking.

Thanks for the info :)

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Permalink Reply by Rachel on November 29, 2008 at 6:22pm

I have the same problem as your friend i can be at 90 one min and the next in the 200 and 5 min later be 60. I was classified as a brittle diabetic and they told me that the pump would help that and it hasn't. I wish my insurance companies would cover CGM. I can test up to 600 times a month because of my sugars roller costing so much. I am also very insulin resistant. i am type 1

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Permalink Reply by Gerri on December 23, 2008 at 4:18pm

Hi Angela,

Sorry--didn't see your message until now. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

Holy cow are not exactly the words I use when I wake up that high:) Too little sleep raises my BG, too.

What has testing as soon as you wake up show?

Hope you're doing well!

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Permalink Reply by Sohair Abdel-Rahman on November 21, 2008 at 1:20am

Angela,
I went to your page and found you stated that you have no diabetes !!!!!
If your fasting blood glucose is 126 mg ( glucometers are not accurate),so you are diabetic !!! between 100-126 mg prediabetic.

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Permalink Reply by Angela on November 29, 2008 at 6:04pm

Hi sohair,

So are glucometers are not accurate? Can they be highor low? How am I to tell then what my BG is?

My endo has classified me as insulin resistance. I don't know what to believe to be honestly.

I do know not eating carbs and being on metformin is barely getting me in the 105-130 range 2 hours after a meal.

My sister is Type 2 and she was telling me that I am suppose to eat more meals throughout the day and keep them small to help the blood sugar curve.

I told her if I did that my BG would always be around 150-170 it wouldn't go down lower. But I will try that and see what happens says...

I am going to request a 2 hour fasting test on Monday when I have my endo appointment. I will also request a new insulin and fbg test as well..

thanks for your input

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