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Permalink Reply by Brunetta on December 21, 2009 at 6:22pm

How very sad for this young woman.. I hope the truth comes out soon as to what really happened.
God Bless,
Brunetta

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Permalink Reply by August on December 21, 2009 at 7:51pm

I had an infection in my toe, the told me I was diabetic and in DKA..I was shocked big time! I also am a type 2, so it does happen to type 2 diabetics..now it's under control with a A1C of 5.4. This girl I think was in DKA, she wanted to be skinny so no insulin and denial of diabetes...poor girl, this is so sad.

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Permalink Reply by Susi (Ladalife) on December 22, 2009 at 8:28am

Big fan!

While I don't want to engage in speculation while we don't know the full circumstances and medical history, but apparently her mother said she had Type 2 - who knows if some journalist made that up.

If the family aren't talking then the journalists are just speculating. But it makes me cringe - all the nonsense they're writing about Type 2 and the 'long-term' effects on the heart. Give me a break... she was 32 and thin, which may equally put a strain on her heart but from 'long-term' Type 2 diabetes? She also apparently had asthma, laryngitis and what sounds like other conditions. Am taking all of it with a grain of salt until the full autopsy results are revealed, which won't be until toxicology comes back - several weeks away.

Still very sad to lose a sweet, fun, bubbly actress at such a young age.

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Permalink Reply by Brian (bsc) on December 22, 2009 at 11:37am

This is really sad, we may never know the true situation. From what I read, her mother said she had a history of diabetes and thyroid problems and suffered from hypoglylcemia. The paparrazi have reported all the "drugs" they found on her bedstand, and it included a claimed diabetes medication Carbamazepine. Actually, as far as I can tell Carbamazepine is for bipolar disorder and seizures, not diabetes. For a type 2 diabetic you would have assumed some sort of oral medication, but nothing mentioned and nothing mentioned about insulin. I liked her as an actress, I hate to see her name dragged though the media. Even more upsetting for the diabetes community, we have to watch as presumably one of our own has her diabetes misconstrued and reported in ways that perpetuate stereotypes of diabetics.

I seriously doubt this girl overdosed on diabetes medications.

I seriously doubt this girl had raging out of control blood sugars causing a heart attack.

She may well have had a sudden onset of diabetes, but that probably would have been detected immediately by the coroner.

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Permalink Reply by Brian (bsc) on December 23, 2009 at 1:23pm

Well I found some more information, it is not in the news yet. The drug Carbamazepine which was claimed to be a diabetes drug, is as I suggested earlier, not a drug for Diabetes Mellitus (DM), but is a drug used to treat Diabetes Insipidus. Diabetes Insipidus (DI) (not apparently related to DM) causes you to relieve huge amount of water. The Carbamazepine is a antidiuretic and supposedly helps you retain water.

If poor Ms. Murphy did suffer from DI, being sick, and throwing up as she was described doing ,could have caused dehyration, a clear risk for cardiac arrest.

Does anyone else know about Diabetes Insipidus?

Is that even in the scope of this community?

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Permalink Reply by Gerri on December 23, 2009 at 2:21pm

I have a dog with diabetes insipidus & it's not related to diabetes according to my vet. He drinks an amazing amount of water constantly & urinates accordingly. We're convinced he must hold a record for both. Curious, I once timed him while peeing--1 minute 22 seconds (!) & this was after peeing many times earlier the same day.

I'm Type 1 & when I saw his almost compulsive water drinking, I rushed him to the vet thinking he had diabetes (no weight loss or hunger). I don't know about about DI in humans, but with dogs it's diagnosed initially from a urine test to know if it's DI or kidney problems or a urinary tract infection.

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Permalink Reply by Holger Schmeken on December 23, 2009 at 3:26pm

This type of Diabetes is new to me. Thanks for the info.

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Permalink Reply by Gerri on December 23, 2009 at 3:58pm

Diabetes insipidus isn't a type of diabetes. Really is a misnomer. DI doesn't have anything to with the pancreas, insulin resistance or auto-immune problems.

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Permalink Reply by Holger Schmeken on December 23, 2009 at 4:14pm

It turned out that the naming is perfect: the word diabetes just means urine. The addendum mellitus stands for "sweet like honey". The insipidus stands for "without taste". The greek doctors only had their taste for diagnosis. So it is just common nowadays to use diabetes as a synonym for diabetes mellitus.

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Permalink Reply by Gerri on December 23, 2009 at 4:18pm

Then it's perfectly named! Thanks.

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Permalink Reply by Gerri on December 23, 2009 at 8:57pm

LOL! Sounds better than sweet urine. Imagine the looks that would get.

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Permalink Reply by Chuck Lin on December 24, 2009 at 3:38am

In Chinese the term for diabetes is literally "sugar urine disease"

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