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Permalink Reply by Zoe on April 3, 2012 at 10:06am

Good for you, Shoshana! You just reminded me; I've never been hospitalized, but have heard horror stories like Tammy's. So I need to tell my doctor at my next appointment that I want him to put an order for me to manage my own blood sugar if I'm hospitalized.

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Permalink Reply by jrtpup on April 3, 2012 at 11:40am

Thanks to you, too, Zoe. I wouldn't have thought of doing that. My doc is affiliated with the hospital where I'd go so I'm sure he could do something like that!

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Permalink Reply by Tammy on April 3, 2012 at 12:50pm

My endo is part of the same hospital, only at a different location. That didn't help...

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Permalink Reply by Tammy on April 3, 2012 at 12:49pm

I usually do too shoshana but since I went in with the bg problem(even though it was due to an underlying bug) they would not let me. Funny thing is, before I had gove to hospital, I kept treating myself hourly as I know how long it should take humalog to work. They'd said the amount I'd taken could be dangerous, then they said it's probably what saved me!! I think part of the problem that day(2nd & last day of stay) was a nurse that didnt speak or understand english very well. I've had numerous surgeries and such. My endo always scripts orders for 'patient to use as was instructed by endo' - meaning, patient knows what she's doing and will take care of it herself!!
When you go in with a bg problem, they want to monitor closely and do it themselves, just beware....

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Permalink Reply by shoshana27 on April 3, 2012 at 12:57pm

at my hospital i don't have my regular endo but one i knew from before who knows me well so he takes good care of me...lucky me.

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Permalink Reply by Stuart on June 8, 2012 at 8:49pm

Hello Again Tammy:

Consider when they "will not let you" you DO SO ANYWAY, regardless of what they "want". They make obscene money doing your tests. Consider to refuse letting them.

They can use your numbers. Something else to consider.

If you were to "BY ACCIDENT" use your own insulin while in their care... because you "woke up, tested and injected out of habit..." they will write it up, and you end up doing the dosing from there forward typically.

Something to consider... if they are being dangerous.

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Permalink Reply by Tammy on June 8, 2012 at 11:08pm

They had my pump Stuart. Also, if you refuse medical treatment or, for instance, sign yourself out from the hospital, insurance has a right to not pay the bill. I like to use proper channels, which is why I'd INSISTED the nurse let me speak directly with the Dr if he wasn't coming in. That's all I needed to do! I'd actually taken more than 100 U(maybe a few!) and I think they thought I didn't know what I was doing or I was reckless because there are people who don't take it seriously or even understand about JD. As I'd said, they were upset I'd taken so much insulin, but, in the same breath, the ER dr said it may have just saved my life! he just suggested calling an ambulance rather than trying to take care of it myself, but I was treating immediately! I thought I was dieing I was so sick(both from the bug & the high sugar).

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Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on June 9, 2012 at 10:32am

I'm not sure about the insurance not having the obligation to pay the bill as insurance usually covers reasonable fees for services rendered. If you sued them, I'm sure a jury would likely understand the argument that the services were rendered *before* you checked yourself out? I've left before and not followed medical advice after hypos which made the doctor roll her eyes and walk out of the room but insurance paid the bill?

It probably depends on the nature of the case but given the general lack of understanding of diabetes in the insurance industry, I suspect they would just pay the bill before they'd bother investigating it? Them having the pump hostage would be a tricker situation. You'd probably have to call the cops on them or something like that? There's usually cops around hospitals anyway...

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Permalink Reply by Stuart on June 8, 2012 at 8:22pm

Hello Tammy:

Overdue... however.

Truthfully, no such ting as TOO MUCH testing 8 O ? For real ???

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Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on April 4, 2012 at 2:01pm

I think that a person who was obsessive wouldn't actually ask themselves if they were becoming obsessive?

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Permalink Reply by Zoe on April 4, 2012 at 2:25pm

Maybe not at first, but in time if it had some negative impact, others commented or they saw that others didn't do it as much or it just stressed them out more and more..they would. Actually even Obsessive Compulsive Disorder has a criteria of recognizing that the obsessions or compulsions are excessive or unreasonable (which is what makes it heartbreaking).

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Permalink Reply by nel on April 8, 2012 at 8:36pm

MountainCat, you said : First when the drug store says 'You're cut off. You've exceeded your limit, insurance has declined your billing'...Maybe GOOD news for you !! Living in the same province , BC , this is how it worked for me ...it is one's Doc , who has to set the limit , who in turns let the Pharmacy know ...Pharmacare will fill the order ..been through the process several years ago ..Doc has set my limit for 400 strips monthly ...and so far I have not used the limit . No questions asked at my Pharmacy either.

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