There are many stories here and elsewhere of those who have "given-up", quite literally people who quit being diabetics or even acknowledging they have diabetes at all.
Teens, 20 something's, beginners and experienced folks alike.
They don't care about insulin coverage, picking random numbers out of thin air...
Eat anything and everything and do not cover for it...
People who go for days without ever taking insulin at all,
People who test not at all or very rarely despite taking injectable insulin
All kinds of examples...
It is a slow and painful process what I call dia-cide; in effect passive "suicide" by diabetes.
My question, how would you reach someone in that kind of bad head space?
If you were watching a fellow diabetic spiral into a certain "crash and burn" mode,
Your child, your partner, someone that you cared about, a young person you knew/heard of...
how would you "talk them down" so to speak...
Anyone have ideas how to do that?
I'm betting there might be a few
1. don't judge.
2. start the conversation by saying something along the lines about you understanding. go into detail about your story.
3. tell them it's ok to not be perfect.
4. it's not okay to give up entirely.
5. baby steps. dn't get overwhelmed trying to do everything everyday. one day eat healthy. the next walk for 20 minutes. three days later check your bs everytime you should. eventually a few of the habits will stick.
6. It's like a diet, everyone fails. you don't jump off the deep end, you just wake up the next day and say, i will do better!
9. relentlessness! on your part to help! 110%
Thank you for taking part as well. Let's try the "easy" scenario(s):
Someone who injects insulin totally blindly, as a daily habit, rather than @(#@*& left them at home, brought the empty bottle instead explainations. Someone who picks random numbers out of thin air, and injects it.
Someone who did test at some point, but now no longer. What do you suggest specifically to help them ~come back~ from the "edge"?
there is no bright future all you have is today you might be eating healthy today and next week you get back into your old habits it only works for a certain time you prick your fingers and try to do what is right test your sugar the next time and it is high and you get depressed what is there
That sounds like the diet mentality, and you're right, it doesn't work. What I mean by diet mentality is that you want there to be an end to it, and you REALLY wish you could go back to some idealistic place where you could eat and do whatever you want, without that diabetes demon hanging onto you. I SURE do understand that, because I have felt the same way and actually almost killed myself doing it.
That's why you have to find a way to view it positively, not negatively, and find a way to make it a habit. Like, for me, every morning, I wake up, take my pills, take my nose drops, and check my BG. If the number is high (and it often can be), I take a correction bolus. (I'm a pumper) I am not allowed to do anything else before I do that. Period. And it's ME telling myself that I'm not allowed, not anyone or anything else. Because I know what the consequences are.
I also learned not to be depressed about the number. It's JUST a number, and all it's telling you is that you need to do something about it. I don't know if you're T1 or T2, but either way, you CAN do something about it, even if just to know that what you ate last night messed up your system. So then you make a plan. Could be to eat less of that particular thing, or could be to take more insulin for it. Whatever, just have a plan. Maybe it won't work, but you've tried. And earned a pat on the back. Not worth getting depressed over. It's NOT a judgment!
I won't go into any more detail, except to say that with diabetes, you're not in it for a sprint, you're in it for a marathon. The longest marathon in the world, i.e. for life. And hopefully, it will be a long one! C'mon, keep on slogging through -- you CAN do it!
Hi Natalie I have type 2 since 2000 and I'm on shots 5 times a day I tried counting carbs and it works but after a few weeks you get hungry and your back to your old habits my worst problem is deciding what to plan for meals I try to think positive but it is very hard
Hi Frustrated, I totally understand where your coming from. I've been T2 for over 21 years and for the first 18-19 of them I was commiting slow motion dia-cide. My ah-ha moment was when prescribed insulin. If you have read some of the earlier post on this topic there was one that asked the question, "Do you want to see your kids or in my case grandkids grow up. With that script in hand I ask myself that question. It was suddenly clear that if I didn't wake up I would not see them grown.
I still struggle with things. I step on the scales every day. The scales and my meter tell me when I'm messing up. And I Do still mess up but now I catch myself before it goes to far. It's easy to re-visit past ways but that one question always brings me back to reality.
I have to admit I went through this for a while. It was my way of coping with other stuff going on at the time. There's really nothing you can do except hope the person "sees the light". The only thing I can recommend is be there if someone needs to vent. The thing that finally woke me up is the fact that hey, I'm controlling something by doing this, but it's my own death. The main thing is boils down to is that your choosing death. I guess sometimes it gets to the point where you feel like all your doing is being a burden and not really doing anything. Realizing that you can help others is the biggest step.