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Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on March 24, 2012 at 8:35pm

That sounds like a great thing!

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Permalink Reply by PatientX on March 24, 2012 at 8:57pm

i have been waiting for this also. I have been watching them for a while. I hope they can break through

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Permalink Reply by Gerri on March 25, 2012 at 12:16am

Gotta love "Each sensor can be used for one day (possibly 2-3 days in the future) before being replaced by a fresh one (an attractive source of recurring revenue)."

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Permalink Reply by LadyD on March 25, 2012 at 9:13am

Exactly heaven forbid that they put the customer's qulity of life first, but such is the world in which we live. Everyone has to make a buck here or there. LOL

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Permalink Reply by Timothy on March 25, 2012 at 1:23am

They never explain how it works. How the glucose in sensed etc. I tried the glucowatch 9 years ago and it was supposed to be non invasive, transdermal continuous sensor. It was not non invasive, in fact worse than standard subdermal sensors that most of us use. It just barely broke the skin but sat there irritating and had to be strapped tightly against the skin. Every 5 min it felt like I was electrocuted for each test. Because of this I am very wary of a product that does not mention how it works and how it is worn etc. Transdermal means it passes thru the skin... but how??? It makes me very nervous.

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Permalink Reply by Brunetta on March 25, 2012 at 4:32am

I did htat Glucowatch too, I think it was about 10 or 11 years ago for me.. Left brown circles on my skin and I I had a minor burning snsations while wearing it. It Was on occasion accurate, but was not consistently reliable and I had to stop using it.

I, too, wonder how the Echo system works..
Thanks for the info, Lady D.

God bless,
Brunetta

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Permalink Reply by LadyD on March 25, 2012 at 9:18am

Tim and Brunetta, I'd often wondered about how the glucowatch worked. I saw a Youtube video of the symphony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-_zJvTpXDY There is some sort of gizmo you have to put on your skin before you apply the "sensors", a sander maybe? I would like more details myself. Hopefully, they will become available as/when the product becomes available.

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Permalink Reply by garidan on March 25, 2012 at 9:28am

As I wrote here, they have a device which "prepares" the skin. It removes about 1 mm of skin.
It was thought to dispense farma through skin, but they use it also for this CGM sensor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0PeoDgs4hg

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Permalink Reply by Timothy on March 29, 2012 at 4:46am

The glucowatch had what they called a micro needle that sort of scratched your skin constantly and was very irritating to say the least.
I don't consider sanding my skin "non invasive" by the way.

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Permalink Reply by BadMoonT2 on March 25, 2012 at 5:17am

Here's an article explaining a bit more about how it works. It does sound non invasive.

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Permalink Reply by garidan on March 25, 2012 at 7:54am

They could get it.
The first 1 millimeter under the skin is rich of blood capillaries, to let us have the "sense of touch".
Beyond that first millimeter you get derma and fat tissue: CGM sensors and infusion set go there.
The studies about microneedles to inject and drain "fluids" (see article link) say that first millimeters is quicker to get in touch with your internal blood vessels, so it could be this CGM technology be better (and with less lag time) than the "tradional" ones sensing interstitial fluids.

We have to see how fast and well skin "repairs" itself ...

Echo has a device which takes away that first millimeter. Than they put in a gel to protect and conduit fluids and a sensor above it.
They don'use microneedles, but the principle is that one.

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Permalink Reply by Gary on March 25, 2012 at 6:54pm

As good as that sounds you will have an ongoing expense just like test strips. Not sure overall if it will be cheaper or more expensive depending on how often you test. Personally I think the meter below will be far more cost effective for the patient especially since there won't be any ongoing expense....

http://blogs.umsl.edu/news/2011/11/02/mpmn/

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