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Permalink Reply by Amy on February 13, 2011 at 12:10pm

Thank you TU Administration for the reminder on civility.....Will this discussion go anywhere...probably not. Will opinions be changed..probably not. The great thing about the United States is that we are allowed to discuss this. Bsc has the right to "Refuse to participate" and should not be condemned for saying that. dickangel, you have the right to your beliefs and those of us that disagree with you are allowed to have our beliefs When you start of a discussion "Do you know that human lives are being destroyed......" Well, that depends on the individuals beliefs on what point human life begins. I believe that you knew that this would turn in to a very heated discussion. I may be wrong, but it does not seem like you are very willing to listen to others perspectives on this issue. If I am wrong in this statement then please accept my apology for my misinterpretation.. I happen to disagree with you. If you choose to no longer donate to JDRF that is again your choice and I have no problem with that. I will on the other hand continue to support the JDRF. Yes, I will welcome a cure that comes from Embryonic Stem Cell Research. If a cure does come from that it is your right to choose not to take advantage of it. I accept you for your beliefs even though I disagree. Can you accept those of us who happen to disagree with you? After all you were the one that asked if people agreed or disagreed.

Permalink Reply by dickengel on February 13, 2011 at 12:25pm

Yes, I understand that others have other beliefs. My goal was not to change beliefs as those are in the core of a person. My goal was Two fold; One to educate as i expect that many were not aware of this issue as it relates to diabetes and also to open a frank exchange of ideas.

Even aside from the ethical issues, I do believe that there is greater opportunity for a cure with the use of adult stem cells and the newer techniques to get other cells to behave like Embryonic stem celI.

I appreciate your response and am glad that you value the free exchange of ideas. Yes, I accept others with other beliefs but still will feel blessed thaty we can all express our beliefs and core values in the open. I can only hope that as other commonly accepted evils have been corrected in time by society, so will this one.

Peace

Permalink Reply by Tom on February 13, 2011 at 12:34pm

I'm seeing a lot of patterns on this thread........

Permalink Reply by Cara on February 13, 2011 at 12:48pm

The fact JDRF is involved in funding stem cell reserach doesn't bother me. What bothers me is some cells which could potentially grow into a viable fetus are more important than someone who is currently walking this Earth and living with a chronic illness. Why do the rights of an "unborn" outweigh the importance of a living and breathing human?

I think stem cells hold the key to a cure, if I don't have to take drugs to fend off rejection, it is a cure. Until then, it is only another treatment. Where these cells come from doesn't bother me.

Permalink Reply by Trudy on February 13, 2011 at 12:50pm

Well said, Amy. This thread is not the first time most of us have considered stem cell research. I am not so much replying to this thread as stating my thoughts on the subject: I am disturbed at the notion that our young ones with diabetes could be deprived of a cure, or even have a cure delayed, when embryonic stem cells could hold the answers. I rejoice in the fact that there is in fact such research, wherever it is occurring.

Permalink Reply by TuDiabetes Administration on February 13, 2011 at 12:52pm

The values of TuDiabetes link erroneously excluded from prior post.

Permalink Reply by satxjohn on February 13, 2011 at 1:12pm

I will make 1 more comment about this and we just have to agree to disagree. I was dx'd 22 years ago and I have had so many people either give me an article or told me of a news story or was on a web site tell me of a promising cure for type 1 diabetes. The last one was how a part of a males anatomy which we have 2 of, biopsy a small sample where they can put beta cells in and transplant to the liver. I actually work in a diabetes research center and I have ask several people to just not bring me these articles or stories because they are mostly B.S. I find when one of these scientist need funding they write this great news for people with type 1 diabetes. I even went to the scientific ADA meeting in 2000 and listened to the group of researchers from Vancouver Canada tell how they transplanted 20 people and 19 have been off insulin for 1 year and did not use steroids using their technique. I listened to so many people tell me how wonderful news that is. My thought was they needed funding as do all research centers. I came to the conclusion then, there will not be a cure in my lifetime. I support the JDRF's funding of this work for a cure for one of these young children who has a life with this terrible disease to look forward to. These cells will also help with a host of other diseases as well but it is also my belief there is to much money to lose finding a cure for diabetes. Tell he how they can transplant a heart and 2 lungs to a person but we cant transplant little insulin producing cells and make them work. Please take the time to look at the big picture, and tell me how you would explain your opinion to a small child just diagnosed and his or her parents. By your withholding of your donations to a worthy organization as the JDRF and write this post of how we are destroying human life you are stating more then just your opinion.

Permalink Reply by dickengel on February 13, 2011 at 1:30pm

Yes I am stating more than an opinion, i am stating basic beliefs that I hold dear. My opinion and my beliefs are that the destruction of human life is wrong. I do not believe that the ends justify the means. So I would explain to the little ones or the older ones (i have been 32 years on Insulin and yes I want a cure) that research to a cure must be done on an ethical basis. I understand that this today is not the popular opinion. I have heard the excuses that they would otherwise be thrown away or its only a few cells, whats the big deal? Well I believe that any life is precious and deserves to be protected.

If I can turn the conversation and ask you the same question, what would you tell the poor soul that never had a chance to live because research in an elusive cure took his opportunity for life?

I know we will never agree but I guess that's what's great about this country we are free toi be free.

Permalink Reply by Frances on February 13, 2011 at 2:17pm

Do you believe that people should not masturbate because every sperm is a potential life? Just curious.

Permalink Reply by dickengel on February 13, 2011 at 2:23pm

I really do not know what that has to do with the issue at hand. So lets keep our sexual preferences to ourself OK?

Permalink Reply by Frances on February 13, 2011 at 2:24pm

If you believe that embryos are sacred, why aren't human germ cells sacred? Which contains the soul, the sperm or the egg? Maybe you believe it is the egg. Please enlighten me.

Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on February 13, 2011 at 2:25pm

*popping popcorn*

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