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Permalink Reply by Brunetta on February 13, 2012 at 2:18pm

I glanced at the info from the link.:
This sounds like a bunch of crock to me. Do they have anythng scientific or anedectodal to prove this?. Blood to the pancreas has not been proven to regrow dying or dead beta cells. Does this stimulation of extra blood flow stop the autoimmune attack of type one ;or the insulin resistance, reduced insuin response of type two?.All this to stop heart disease , blockages, AND diabetes? HMMMMMM..
How go the screenings, Ms.Christalyn? You are a hard worker AND a star!!!

God bless,
Brunetta

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Permalink Reply by Christalyn on February 14, 2012 at 1:55am

I am sitting on pins and needles with this screening...promotions has been interesting to say the least. THanks for asking.

This sounds like a crock to me too. They want me to go in for a free treatment for about 4 months. They also want to come to the screening and pass out stuff. I am not having that.

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Permalink Reply by BadMoonT2 on February 13, 2012 at 3:53pm

I agree with Brunetta, it seems just a little too good to be true. They claim to cure "stroke, diabetes, high blood pressure, angina/chest pain, heart failure, heart attack, and diseases like obesity, kidney failure, eye disease, and more." That's quite a list.

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Permalink Reply by Christalyn on February 14, 2012 at 1:53am

I remember watching one of the old medical shows and they were mentioning how the body may naturally make small arteries around a blockage but this was not very efficient. So the doctors when in and made a bypass and cut off all the little arteries. So isn't this the last thing a person wants to have happen to them?

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Permalink Reply by LaGuitariste on February 13, 2012 at 4:25pm

It sounds like charlatans to me. Type 1 diabetes isn't caused by a "block" in circulation to the pancreas -- it's caused by an auto-immune attack on individual beta cells in the pancreas. Type 2 diabetes is caused by insulin resistance in the cells.

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Permalink Reply by Christalyn on February 14, 2012 at 1:51am

I think the same thing too. They help diabetics with diet and exercise. I figure this is what make them think this therapy helps most diabetics but actually it is the diet and exercise.

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Permalink Reply by Gerri on February 13, 2012 at 9:15pm

EECP is a legitmate therapy, but never heard of it for diabetes. Can't see how inceased circulation to the pancreas would assist either T1 or T2.

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Permalink Reply by Christalyn on February 14, 2012 at 1:50am

That is what I kept telling this guy. I didn't understand how bringing more blood to the pancreas would help it. He couldn't answer my question.

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Permalink Reply by Brian (bsc) on February 14, 2012 at 5:04am

Well, I looked through the site. They have a section where they list a whole bunch of research, the majority of it is not really gold standard work in peer reviewed leading journals and most importantly, none of it is about diabetes or improving circulation to the pancreas.

Unfortunately, the US health system has developed into a fee for service model. People will sell you medical services. This is that type of thing. If you went to your doctor (like your endo), my bet is that none of them would ever suggest you undergo this therapy.

This EECP procedure may improve circulation, particularly in conjunction with treatments like balloon catheterization, but that doesn't make it a silver bullet particularly for unrelated conditions like diabetes. And sadly, this guy is probably a salesman. He has no interest in your convincing him that it doesn't work, he gets paid based on sales. But thanks for standing up and questioning him, it was the right thing to do.

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Permalink Reply by Christalyn on February 14, 2012 at 9:43am

So you weren't impressed with the site???? Ha ha!

Thanks, we these type of people pop up on my radar I immediately unload questions and ask to show me real data from reputable sources. When I ask questions about the pancreas normally folks don't have a decent answer. They want to come to MY screening and pass out literature about this procedure... I told him no!

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Permalink Reply by BadMoonT2 on February 14, 2012 at 9:50am

I think you handled it just right Christalyn. Something didn't seem right, so you checked with others to confirm your opinion and then told the guy to get lost.

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Permalink Reply by Brian (bsc) on February 16, 2012 at 6:18am

Interesting paper. It suggests that patients with coronary arterial disease, particularly those suffering from peripheral arterial disease who undergo this procedure to improve their circulation also see a benefit to their glucose tolerance. This is plausible and it makes sense that if your circulation improves to major parts of your body that had been blood starved, you probably would have improved uptake of glucose into those parts of the body.

But this study is probably only relevant to patients with markedly impaired circulation (with coronary arterial disease or major perpheral arterial disease) and it doesn't say anything about improved blood flow to the pancreas. If your cardiologist recommended it, this might be a reasonable treatment for coronary arterial disease and improving your circulation may well improve your glucose uptake.

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