Help! I had a real bad night last night
Mary's sugars were so good the other night, I thought, "great, tonight can finally get some sleep!"
All of a sudden @ 10:00 she felt low and it turned out to be 46 with over 1 unit on board. We gaver her full glass of OJ. We waited 15 min all the while she was complaining she did not fell well.
After we checked it again it still read 46. This time another glass of OJ, and a box of raisins, then a ring ding.
Finally it read 78. Then went up to 115 I suspended her pump for an hour.. I set my alarm for 12:00 am and it read 348. And the whole night since she kept going higher. Her highest reading was over 500.
I gave a correction dose before the 500 reading. Once I got to the 500 I have her 3 units via a needle.
This morning she is still reading 368.
NO keytones, though. I cant figure that out because she is complaining of stomach pains.
The only thing I can figure is the insulin went bad.
We changed her set yesterday morning and her sugars were just fine during the day.
Her bottle of insulin was down to the very last drop.
Anyway, I just changed her set again this morning with a fresh bottle of insulin. It is still a bit high but is reading @ 268.
I am so tired, I probably dont even make sense, but I am so weary, any advise would be appreciated.
We are still new to the medtronic.
All of a sudden @ 10:00 she felt low and it turned out to be 46 with over 1 unit on board. We gaver her full glass of OJ. We waited 15 min all the while she was complaining she did not fell well.
After we checked it again it still read 46. This time another glass of OJ, and a box of raisins, then a ring ding.
Finally it read 78. Then went up to 115 I suspended her pump for an hour.. I set my alarm for 12:00 am and it read 348. And the whole night since she kept going higher. Her highest reading was over 500.
I gave a correction dose before the 500 reading. Once I got to the 500 I have her 3 units via a needle.
This morning she is still reading 368.
NO keytones, though. I cant figure that out because she is complaining of stomach pains.
The only thing I can figure is the insulin went bad.
We changed her set yesterday morning and her sugars were just fine during the day.
Her bottle of insulin was down to the very last drop.
Anyway, I just changed her set again this morning with a fresh bottle of insulin. It is still a bit high but is reading @ 268.
I am so tired, I probably dont even make sense, but I am so weary, any advise would be appreciated.
We are still new to the medtronic.
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Permalink Reply by HPNpilot on -
Yes!
I am not letting it stop me either... I control it , not the other way around....
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Permalink Reply by Doris D on -
I will NEVER admit that b/c it isn't true! I try and see the glass 1/2 full not 1/2 empty. Most days are good and the bad days are far & few between. Don't say anything like that to a mom who is new to this.
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Permalink Reply by Jennifer on -
you have to wait 10 to 15 minutes and check after that first glass of juice.. .. she will ALWAYS go high if you do not wait between glasses of OJ...it takes about 10 to 15 for the juice to really kick in and then you gave her the cardinal sin of carbs...RAISINS, which will ALWAYS raise your BG into the stratosphere.. I cannot even eat them because just a small amount brings me to the 300's.. it is ok to be high.. it really is.. but low.. no go!!! just start off with One glass of juice and a piece of toast with a little drop of cinnamon sugar.. it will bring it up a bit, but I find it works the best...then give her a protein, because it takes longer to digest the carb if you add protein...keep hard boiled eggs available, this is what I do.. I had lows all night long.. and seriously I will take a teaspoon full of organic raw sugar and then make myself the toast with butter and cinnamon sugar and a hard boiled egg.. it does work and you will have less stress.. please try this next time and let me know if it is easier...that little sugar I take on the spoon is better then the glass of juice.. I find OJ actually brings me high and then drops me super fast..esp. if i take nothing else...I have dropped into the 40's and done the drop of sugar and taken care of myself.. I have no help so I have to take care of my own highs and lows...It is good you are there to do this for her...GOod luck and hope my little tricks help.
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Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on -
I don't think that it's ok to be high either though, that's the wrong message. There are real problems with running high. I agree low is not a good solution and agree the middle is the best place to be.
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Permalink Reply by AustinMom on -
You've gotten lots of great advice about dealing with the low, so I won't add more. I did want to share with you what we learned regarding a possible bad site. Our CDE said if we have two unexplained highs, correct with a shot and change the site. The key there is "unexplained" highs. Mary's highs seem likely to have been caused by overtreating her low. Like Acidrock said, the fact that she went low was a good indicator that her site and insulin were probably fine. As a mom, I totally understand that desperate feeling of doing everything you know to do to help your child feel better, especially when faced with what truly could turn into an emergency situation. When we're in that mode, we don't always slow down enough to think everything through - we just react. In the scheme of things, an overtreatment here or there is no big deal, so please don't beat yourself up over that!
I hope tonight is better and that you get some rest. Take care of Mary, but take care of you, too!
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Permalink Reply by Kathyann on -
Hi Mary's Mom
I've overtreated especially when the low makes me feel really bad. And when my blood sugar spikes (and it always does) it takes a very long time to bring it back down. I start thinking my insulin is bad, etc, etc, but I think when I get above 300 I start getting some insulin resistance. So now I try to wait it out. And that 15/15 rule will make me spike every time. Hope Mary is feeling better now.
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Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on
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One other trick I would suggest is to use a timer, I use the one on the microwave, set it for 15 or 20 minutes or whatever and do something until the timer goes off and you test again.
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Permalink Reply by Gary on -
Sorry I keep forgetting everyone else has a different type of diabetes then me. Well at least the symptoms from the sugar swings. My emotions are haywire and most peoples aren't as its just a number. I think if you all had the same symptoms as me you would all agree its living hell. On the very rare occasion when I actually feel good/well the condition is very tolerable. For the most part I am F*****G miserable and feel my life is threatened. I am literally crippled from living a normal life as I am no longer involved in any social activities, personal relationships, traveling or much of anything for that matter. It's actually amazing I am still somewhat able to work but don't no how much longer that is going to be either. I only replied to this thread because I had the same thing happen to me the other day as well. Dropped real low at work, felt like it wasn't coming up, overate and bingo 2hrs later I was 378. Carry on.
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Permalink Reply by jrtpup on -
Yes, I agree, we all have a different type diabetes.
Gary, we all understand how you feel. Please use some discretion as to where you're posting negativity!
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Permalink Reply by Scott E on -
Gary, the diabetes is the same. How we deal with it is different. Since you had a similar experience as Mary, I hope you can take something of value from this discussion, so you will be able to avoid the lows - and the highs that follow them.
Many of us would do anything for their kids, even make more of an effort than they would with themselves. I am constantly amazed at what parents are capable of when it comes to kids. With diabetes, seizure disorders, etc. The limits on what you can do are set only by yourself.
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