I'm Type 1!!!!, NOT Type 2

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Permalink Reply by Phil on June 12, 2009 at 4:32pm

Thanks Michelle!

Permalink Reply by Kathy on June 10, 2009 at 4:56pm

First off...sorry to hear about your diagnosis. NO ONE NEEDS, WANTS, DESIRES Diabetes
T1...there is a theory that T1 can be accelerated by weight gain. They are seeing more children of greater weight being diagnosed as T1. T1 IS on the rise along with T2. Reason?? Unknown.
They have found that in BOTH T1 and T2 there is CRP in greater than normal levels before diagnosis (this is a measure of inflammation). Just a thought...nothing more.
Researchers have found overlaps between T1 and T2. LADA is characterized as one of these BUT there are T2's who have genetics (HLA, and other markers) that would lean towards T1.
They don't know all of the antibodies or workings of T1...therefore there probably is even more T2's who are T1's. Is it fair to tell these people 'it's all your fault'? Really, is it fair to say that to anyone? You may do risky things and if you get hurt - do you want the ER to say 'huh, you should have never been riding without a helmet so we will only give you minimal care'. That's unfortunately the care level many T2's receive. Just another point....
PLEASE educate yourself on the 'two' types. IMO there really ISN'T 2 types but there are many degrees of diabetes and everyone fits somewhere.
As for your co-workers ...EDUCATE THEM! They only mean well and don't have a clue what they are saying.
Genetically I am high risk for T1 but I am T2 with other autoimmune issues. Oh, and you would be surprised at how many other T2's have autoimmune issues that are associated with T1 (expecially women - thyroid disease for one). PLEASE DON'T BE AS BAD AS THE MEDIA AND LUMP IT TOGETHER AS YOU GOT FAT AND IT'S YOUR FAULT!!! I for one got sick, was that my fault? Was it my fault when I went to the ER and they never checked my glucose because I didn't LOOK like a diabetic? Ya, I'm worse off because of that. Can I change that? No, but I can educate others that it can happen.
Really, I do wish you the best. And I know you are angry. I have been there too.

Permalink Reply by Mommy and the monkeys on June 10, 2009 at 4:59pm

Thank you for writing my exact feelings so eloquently!

Permalink Reply by Amanda on June 10, 2009 at 5:06pm

The media makes me angry too!! I think they really are the reason most non-d's automatically relate diabetes to being fat. Whenever I hear this nonsense on tv I'm always yelling "not me! Not me!". I then give a ten minute speech to whoever may listen about the true facts (even though they've heard my speeches before).

All younger kids who are overweight and are diagnosed I hear as being diagnosed type two because their pancreas is still making insulin, just not enough for their body size. It also makes me angry that parents let their child get to that point. Take them outside, play in the yard and limit their food!! Kids of my generation were always out playing and I don't recall any heavy kids when I was young. It's sad.

Permalink Reply by Cheri on June 10, 2009 at 5:06pm

Marty -
Well, you might not have meant to - but you did "dis T2s"
Geez - I'm soooooooooooo tired of this conversation.
Why is it is so hard to understand that NOT ALL T2s are obese people who sat around eating bonbons until they got diabetes.
While not all the connections have yet been made - there is soooooooo much research needed - and as Scott pointed out there are some "its" we still need to discover. But there is one thing I am sure of - I DID NOT CAUSE MY DIABETES, OK?????
Diabetes is all through my family, along with other autoimmune diseases (I also have hypothyroidism).
So Cody - WE didn't have a choice either.
Marty, I am happy for you that you somehow feel "vindicated" because you have T1 instead of T2, but it's time you learned better. I would ask that next time you run up against these uninformed prejudices, you might do some re-educating. Try this link - You Did NOT Eat Your Way to Diabetes! http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046739.php

Thanks,
Cheri

Permalink Reply by Amanda on June 10, 2009 at 5:18pm

marty-I'm glad you posted this even though I'm sure it will make others mad-this topic has before. It feels good to get frustration out when you are newly diagnosed or an old pro. Please do not feel frustrated by comments that offend you. I hope you stick around to learn, grow and find good support from those on this site.

Oh and I personally want to thank those wonderful type twoers who actually took the time to try to educate marty instead of getting angry and throwing mean words around to someone who obviously wasn't fully taught about the different types. A united kingdom will never fall.

Permalink Reply by Marps on June 11, 2009 at 5:58am

here! here! (wanna beer?)

Permalink Reply by Mark Hagen on June 10, 2009 at 5:26pm

1. I'm with Dino, these conversations tend to explode.
2. Although weight can be a contributing factor to type 2 there has to be a tendency.
3. I have known some very skinny type 2's, don't fall into the trap of the media. Remember they only report half of the truth usually with no critical details.
4. I have been T1 a long time and would rather be T1 anyday of the week. For the reasons Scott listed above. Those of us that were on 1 shot a day remember having to carefully regulate what and when you ate. A lot of the misconceptions about diabetes were born during those times. Imagine, if you will, trying to keep your glucose level, only little spikes for meals and if you miss a snack you go low.
5. I for one do not beleive that you can cause this thing at all. I beleive there is a tendency and IF you can control the contributing factors you may be able to control its appearance, but it is always there. Otherwise ALL obese people would be diabetic and they are not.
Just some points to think about. I am sure not everyone agrees with me but these are my semi-educated conclusions. I don't claim to be educated on T2 and those with T2 may find flaws with my conclusions. Please do and tell me. I want to be educated and then when I am working to educate those around me I can do a better job.
Anger at the disease is a normal part of the grieving process. As you grieve the loss of your "normal life" remember we are here to help and support you.

Permalink Reply by Amanda on June 10, 2009 at 5:44pm

Well said

Permalink Reply by Diabetic_Iz_Me on June 10, 2009 at 5:45pm

I understand your frustration but Type 2 is not just the "Fat" disease. I know a lot of people fail to realize this but a lot of Type 2 diabetic's did not bring the disease on themselves. People can not help there genetic make-up. I disagree with you when you say Type 2's don't test as much as Type 1's. I myself had the chance to live both worlds (1.5/LADA). I did check my Bg's as often as I do now. I needed to in order to keep diabetes in control. Type 1 is different than Type 2 but that's where you should step up and explain the difference to your co-workers. You can not knock Type 2 without knowing the facts.
Type 1 us diffcult to leave with and so is Type 2. Personally, they both are hard to manage, require change in diet, support from peer's, frequent glucose testing, countless doctor appointments and lots of labs. T-1 and T-2's have all cried, wanted to give up but we all deal with it. T-1 and T-2 doesn't matter in my book. We are all trying to focus on 2 major thing. FINDING A CURE and learning how to live with diabetes. We need to stick together and overcome our differences.

Permalink Reply by lynn smith on June 10, 2009 at 5:47pm

I was misdiagnosed as type 2, but I am type 1, or1.5 lada, whatever you want to call it , I am on a pump and test about 12 times a day, so I have to explain how they thought I was 2 but really I am 1, it wwas messy for awile but now knowing what I do about the difference, if I coud have avoided this I sure would have, the first thing my endo said to me when she found out my results that I was T1, was you can stop blaming yourself right now, and I have

Permalink Reply by Pavlos on June 10, 2009 at 7:02pm

So far so good, almost nobody is losing their cool.

My feelings were made clear, I hope, in the last similar discussion that was closed down by the admin -I have found through educating myself that things aren't so simple as 'all T2s are to blame for their condition' or 'being fat causes T2.'

Having said that, however, since that discussion there have been a few aggravating (to me) posts by T2s that I think puts me in a similar mindset as you Marty. The posts I am referring to are from T2s in the T1 forum complaining about how difficult life is when they see their numbers go as high as 140 or 150. I'm sorry but just like you T2s (rightfully so) don't like being accused of having caused your condition by being fat or eating unhealthily, we T1s don't like it when you try to tell us that you can empathize with us because your blood sugar was 150 for half an hour today. I haven't gone below 200 for more than thirty minutes in almost a month now and when I did I plummeted to the low 50s. And to me that's been a vast improvement over what I used to be before I got on the pump.

I could go on but I can feel the tension rising and I feel that I might have already taken this discussion down hill, I hope not. Basically what I am saying is that it's unfair for us T1s to blame all of you T2s for your condition, but it's equally unfair for you to say that you have any idea what it's like to be T1. We might all be weathering the same storm, but we're not doing it in the same boat.

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