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Permalink Reply by Sareln Pupkies on April 6, 2011 at 2:02pm

Excuse me. Republicans. Exactly what is wrong with us that makes liberals so holier than thou? I am a Republican and proud of it. In fact, hold on SFPete, I consider myself a Reagan Conservative. I struggle just like the rest of you. Believe me this country is in trouble and it is time we put politics aside and save our country! I will be quiet now so I don't get in trouble with the Administrators.

Permalink Reply by MossDog on April 6, 2011 at 2:09pm

Sareln- Don't consider myslef Democrat or Republican but agree that we need to put politics down for now and come up with a solution. The only reason I bash one side or another is so that the wool might be pulled back from the eyes of (not pointing out Anyone in particular but what I see on the comments of msnbc political articles) people who listen to what is coming out of the spin either party generates and unfailingly repeat it. I think both parties are encouraging us to fight amongst ourselves so we do not all wake up and smell the coffee. They are both ruining our country.

Permalink Reply by Kelly WPA on April 6, 2011 at 2:19pm

I am an independent & I don’t have a problem bashing either party if they deserve it. I don’t care about what party is doing what. I care about what isn’t or is being done and getting tired of the same old crap, different day, different politicians.

One thing that I am proud of is that two congressmen from PA (my state) were leaders in the bill to get the Medicare competitive bidding on hold – one was a Republican and one was a Democrat. They can work together if they wanted to.

Permalink Reply by dickengel on April 8, 2011 at 7:23am

No don't be quiet - otherwise the George Soros Progressives will continue to destroy our nation. We must all speak up and share our thoughts!!

Permalink Reply by Doris D on April 6, 2011 at 2:26pm

I don't think this post was put up for us to start arguing pollitics. Honestly I don't agree with or disagree with EVERYTHING that's happening on the agendia of either side here. I'm worried about how I'm going to care for myself and my daughter who is also a Type 1, she has given me 3 g-kids also. Oh my husband also has amany medical problems that have, errrrrr, totally changed our lives over the past 10 years.

Permalink Reply by Jag1 on April 6, 2011 at 2:15pm

The problem isn't the Democrats, and it isn't the Republicans. The real villain, which both sides love and cherish, is money in politics. It is responsible for us getting a crappy medical plan (Obama-care) with no public option - because Obama made a deal with the health care lobby (seeFrontline). Money in politics is also responsible for us cutting taxes while starting unfunded wars for the benefit of the Military lobby - and I don't mean only Bush's Iraq and Afghanistan but also Obama's Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Pakistan.

Permalink Reply by Sareln Pupkies on April 6, 2011 at 2:22pm

I.ve got to know because it is driving me crazy! Are there any Republicans/Conservatives on this site? Am I truly as alone as I feel?

Permalink Reply by Judith on April 6, 2011 at 3:04pm

No you're not at all alone, Sarein, but who decides to participate in any given discussion is never predictable. We don't usually get this political here, but obviously folks feel strongly on this subject. As long as we don't start calling each other nasty names, as long as we engage in civilized debate, our admin team will let us go on. You'll find that participation varies with time of day and day of week, too, as folks' schedules shift....I'm obviously a liberal, but I really think you are presenting coherent arguments for your point of view, so I wouldn't give up. For instance, I am much more likely to take seriously a Reagan Conservative, than a Tea Party person.

Permalink Reply by Sareln Pupkies on April 6, 2011 at 3:07pm

Thanks!

Permalink Reply by Natalie ._c- on April 6, 2011 at 5:25pm

I'm sorry that you feel alone. I didn't put up the post to bash anyone, but to express my concern for the poor and elderly. I am on neither Medicaid nor Medicare, and even when I do go on Medicare, I wouldn't be affected by Ryan's position. But cutting taxes on the rich while penalizing the elderly and poor just doesn't make sense to me. If you can explain the reasoning behind Ryan's proposal, please write me privately, because I don't want this to turn into a conflict.

Permalink Reply by Sareln Pupkies on April 6, 2011 at 8:20pm

I do feel a little outnumbered but this has been a good discussion and I am a big girl.. In a book written by a well known San Diego pastor (The Coming Economic Armageddon) the following statistics were offered:

"When the huge Baby Boomer generation reaches full retirement in 2012, nearly 80 million Americans are going to be expecting their monthly Social Security check from the government, along with the Medicare benefits. But estimates are that the money will not be there to pay these obligations."

"The current unfunded liability for Medicare Part A is $36.17 trillion; for Part B it's $37 trillion; for Part D it's $15.6 trillion. The total liability of all three unfunded Medicare programs is $89.3 trillion. .... If you add the unfunded Medicare programs to the unfunded Social Security, you come up with a figure of $106.8 trillion."

Thats why I support Rep. Ryan. I am sick, poor, and old so I am really concerned. I would rather see uncomfortable cuts be made now than see everything go down the tubes. We do need to think about the future for our kids and grandkids.

ps You know how we always hear about the Social Security Trust Fund -- there ain't no such animal.

Permalink Reply by BadMoonT2 on April 6, 2011 at 6:32pm

I used to consider myself a conservative because the countries fiscal policies alarmed me even as far back as the 70's. But I feel thoroughly betrayed. The bulk of our obscene deficit was accumulated under Regan and Bush 43 both of whom called themselves conservatives. There is nothing conservative about cutting taxes without cutting spending at the same time. The notion that tax cuts pay for themselves through increased economic activity has been tested and it has failed spectacularly. And yet those who call themselves conservative still tout this theory. Unfortunatly the voters keep buying this jive.

The ultimate irony is that the only balanced budget in recent memory was under the supposed wild eyed liberal Clinton. I'm not sure labels are valid anymore, so I consider myself an independent. A pox on both their houses.

I am actually heartened by this discussion. Many different viewpoints have been intelligently discussed with a minimum of vitriol. Lock us all in a room and perhaps we could find a way out of this mess. Now if only Congress would do the same. Don't hold your breath.

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