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Permalink Reply by lisa c on July 4, 2010 at 10:58am

thanks Tom...i have good lipids. my diet is great. I have since added this great new product. check it out and let me know what you think.

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Permalink Reply by Joe Dennis on July 4, 2010 at 4:48pm

Check the statistics ;there is a higher mortality rate for those with the lowest cholesterol level . Cholesterol does NOT cause heart disease .Inflammation causes heart attacks. I would never ever take a statin drug.

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Permalink Reply by Brunetta on July 5, 2010 at 3:16am

I agree. I have had type1 for over 40 years, refused statins. I tke 2 1000 milligram Omega -3 tablets a day. My cholesterol is optimum and my c-reactive protein test, a marker for inflamation in the body, is rated as optimal. hence, I refused statins: Tried zocor and lipitor, they gave me bad side effects, muscle pains and low blood pressure. So I said no to statins 3 years ago after a trial period and being told I needed to be have an LDL below 70 ( I can stay between 66 and 80 without statins.

There was a past discussion about the use of statins on this forum, from several months, maybe even a year ago.
Thre consesnsus seemed to be that the effects are vaiable among the type 1 population. I personally avoid them and am no worse the wear. But then as Joe noted, it is the inflammation we need to control. as I said above I requested a co- reactive protein test and as I noted mine was .02, which is optimum.So definitely no statins for me.

God Bless,
Brunetta

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Permalink Reply by goldensun on July 5, 2010 at 5:14am

I do not understand the requirement to be under 70. On my lab results, it says specifically, that under 100 is OK for diabetics if the person does not have existing CVD. The target of 70 is for persons with diabetes WHO DO HAVE CDV.

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Permalink Reply by lisa c on July 5, 2010 at 5:19am

Brunetta, i am on traqck with all you suggested. My CRP is fine. I think these docs try to cover their butts sometimes and get caught up in the drug consciousness. They are surrounded by it. I just hoped my doc was a bove that.

Good we have others to share knowledge.

Stay well.

Lisa

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Permalink Reply by Joe Dennis on July 5, 2010 at 5:29pm

Here's a fact for you .65% of all people enter the hospital with a heart attack have "low"or "normal " cholesterol levels and 85% of them have "good" hdl and ldl ratio .

The culture that has the lowest cholesterol level has the highest heart attacks ;while the country that has the highest cholesterol levels have the fewest heart attack.

The biggest danger for the diabetic is AGEs , high glyconation does the biggest damage to the arteries,which causes inflammation .

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Permalink Reply by lisa c on July 5, 2010 at 5:58pm

Joe,

thanks for the stats. So how do we avoid the AGES besides diet, exercise ,vitamins? The blood sugar fluctuations make it tough to slow the AGES...dont you think?

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Permalink Reply by Judith on July 5, 2010 at 6:09pm

I'm absolutely with all these good folks. Big Pharma would like to put statins in the drinking water!

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Permalink Reply by Joe Dennis on July 6, 2010 at 10:12am

Follow the money trail!!!!!!

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Permalink Reply by lisa c on July 6, 2010 at 12:00pm

I dont get it...but I dont get many things.

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Permalink Reply by s6954118 on July 6, 2010 at 12:09pm

I was on lipitor for years this was before dx of type 2. I started taking Lipitor when it was a tier 1 prescription. My ENDO changed me over to Crestor and I saw a 20 to 30 point drop in my total Cholesterol. I never saw any side effects except in the wallet

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