Hi,

So I recently had to make the switch from my Endo to Kaiser. I was really bummed about having to switch doctors but my insurance changed so I am trying to stay positive about it. So today I had my first visit to Kaiser to try to get a referral to a Endo and the doctor wants to put my on a 3 different meds. She said lot of diabetics take these (even if they don't have high cholesterol or high blood pressure). I do not have high cholesterol and I actually have fairly low blood pressure. So the doctor recommended this:

Lovastatin 10 mg daily with a meal - to protect my heart
Aspirin enteric-coated 81 mg with a meal daily- to protect heart
Lisinopril 2.5 mg 1/2 tab at night - to protect kidneys

I am not one to take meds (besides insulin of course!) so I am a little weary of all these meds. I asked her about side effects and she said there is none (which I don't believe).

Is anyone else being subscribed these or had a positive/negative experience?

Thanks

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That's what I take because my T4 is ok, but my T3 is really low. What thyroid med do you take? Sorry, what do you mean you couldn't walk around the block on Cytomel & so didn't need other meds?

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com is a wonderful site. Her book is also great. Hope you can convince your endo to test free T3 & free T4. Was a knocked down argument with mine, but I went armed with facts & he finally agreed.
What always gets me is that they try to put me on statins when my LDL is fine by normal standards--I think last time it was like 105, but they wanted me to be under 100 even though the reference range was under 120--because they treat diabetes as a heart attack survivor.

My dad had major problems stemming from statins that were preventative and did a number on his liver. Whenever my endo tries to put me on them, I mention that, and so far I haven't had one push.

I wouldn't want to be on BP meds because my BP already runs low (when I test on my own, half the time I'm in the 110 /60 range--I have been like 98/56 before) and they've never even mentioned it. I figure there's enough time to go on BP meds after I start getting some.

My mom has had serious blood clot/thinning issues (partially because of meds) as well as acid reflux--and that makes me very leery of going on blood thinners in general, asprin (which is so hard on stomachs) in particular.

All medications have side effects. They're basically controlled doses of poison. It's just that for the people who need them, the benefits outweigh the risks. For someone who doesn't need it . . . I wish that more doctors would think before they prescribed by cookie cutter.

I hope no one minds if I resurrect this old[ish] thread. My new doctor just recommended a BP medicine in order to prevent kidney problems--of which I have none and have never had traces of in 23 years. This is the first time I've ever heard of this...so I found it frustrating to be told that it's standard. All my blood work is normal, my BPs run low. I'm very wary of taking meds. I went through an avandia and glucophage phase with one doctor, but cut those out almost immediately because of how crappy I felt.

In any case, I appreciate the talk here. I will definitely have to have another discussion with my doctor about this. :)

When I was new to diabetes and to Kaiser, my primary almost killed me with Lisinopril. He didn't have a clue I have autonomic neuropathy. My BP was always high in his office, but at home is seldom above 75/45 in the a.m. I tried to tell him and he didn't believe me. I finally just threw the dang pills out. He'd also given me glipizide and I was having some nasty lows. I wouldn't take anything you don't think you need, Kaiser docs that I've known are way too quick to prescribe and way to slow to listen when things go wrong. Oh, and stay away from their dieticians, too.

not bad advice at all...
I'm extremely wary of pills.
and I have blood pressure that is rarely above normal and is more likely below normal most times. :) I'm proud of that.
Ack. I hate pills...and pharmeceuticals. :P
except insulin. that's good. LOL :D

Yes I was put on those exact drugs. I had an odd reaction to 2 of them.
I got diarhea from the lovestatin and I got positional hypotension from the Lisinopril as well as feeling of choking from the Lisinopril.

After 3 other drugs to replace them, I finally just said "I'M NOT TAKING THEM "
I have normal blood pressure and normal cholesterol.

Kaiser wants all diabetics on that stuff, I was berated for close to a year. I would be happy to take them if I needed them or If there were no side effects.
My BP runs about 110/80 and I' happy with that, My cholesterol runs about 150, HDL 75
It is crazy that anyone would want me on a statin at 150/ 75.
It is protocol there tho, You just have to be clear with them,

I take the aspirin though because it has no side effects for me.

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