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Permalink Reply by Type1Gal on January 21, 2012 at 8:07pm

the motivation is we, as type 1's will die if we don't take insulin. motivation for type 2's - horrendous complications. that's clearly stated and everyone knows these facts. i thrive in my career, my life, my relationships. i want to continue with the best quality of life I can. If someone else does not, then that's their issue(s), not the doctors. blame, blame, blame everyone else.

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Permalink Reply by smileandnod on January 22, 2012 at 7:30pm

I agree with Natalie and Gerri. I take offense at blaming the patient's motivation. If someone's A1c is high, that doesn't necessarily equate to lack of motivation. I've had this disease long enough to know that there have been times in my life that I've been extremely motivated and doing all that I know to be right..with sub par results. And it's not from lack of motivation but rather from hormones or thyroid or stress or genetics or other illness. This holds true for myself, a Type 1, and my brother, a Type 2.

There are many on this site that are not in the 5 club or even the 6's but that doesn't mean that they're not trying their very best. And criticizing their level of motivation only creates more stress and pressure to control something that they're already having trouble controlling.

Our local paper had a full page story on Paula Deen today that I thought was the most balanced coverage that I've read of her story to date. They covered the criticisms that have been leveled but also gave an account from Paula's perspective. The genetic factor for Type 2 was also mentioned finally.

Paula said that she did not approach the pharma company. Pharma approached Paula to ask her if she would take some of her recipes and come up with diabetes friendly versions to put on their website. It was only then that they found out she has diabetes.

Paula also said in the article that she only tapes her show 30 days a year. She emphasized that she does not cook and eat like that every day.

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Permalink Reply by jrtpup on January 23, 2012 at 5:31am

Wow, someone at your local paper seems to have done their research.

T1gal, you said Anyone with diabetes knows how to manage it That is patently untrue. If I hadn't been motivated and intelligent enough to do my own research I would still be managing as I was taught by an ADA party-line nutritionist. As many others have said, many are not given any education except maybe a sliding scale if they're injecting insulin.

If they're not computer savvy, don't have a computer, or don't know to explore further because "the doctor knows best" then they are anything BUT knowledgeable about how to manage it. Most people listen to their medical professsionals somewhat blindly, most people aren't nearly as motivated, educated, or resourceful as we on TuD are. As I've said many times, we are exceptional in the lengths to which we've gone to gather info and manage our D, whether T1 or T2.

There is no fault, of any kind, nor any blame. Everyone does their best at the time. Their management may not be up to our standards, but it IS their best.

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Permalink Reply by Sue59 on January 25, 2012 at 5:38pm

Am I the only person who is getting tired of all this hype about what Paula is/is not eating? Tonight on Entertainment Tonight, they did a video of Paula eating a cheeseburger and FF on a cruise. So what?? Is that really news?? Why aren't people allowed to eat what they want, without being criticized, because they have diabetes?

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Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on January 25, 2012 at 5:51pm

I'd be curious to know how many other people on the same cruise also availed themselves of burgers, fries, daiquiris, etc.

I think the anti-diabetes movement is a spin-off of the "tea party" movement, sort of opposed to government "interventions" that would cost consumers money to "coddle" we folks with diabetes who might want to test our blood sugar so we don't pass out and run over people? If it's "their [i.e. our, I'm on your team!] fault", then that side can view diabetes as another example of people demanding "coverage" for something they don't deserve. So we shouldn't raise taxes or increase Medicare benefits or enact any legislation to give us any negotiating leverage against the "bad guys".

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Permalink Reply by Zoe on January 25, 2012 at 6:03pm

People should be allowed to eat whatever they want without being criticized. But she is touting herself as both a professional chef and a spokesperson for diabetes.In effect: a role model. It would be like someone being a spokesperson for a Alcohol Treatment Program and being seen around town drunk.

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Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on January 25, 2012 at 6:07pm

I dunno, she's a spokesperson for doing what you want and seems armored vs. the complainers. She can afford Victoza, not to mention GBP, a servant to count her carbs for her, monthly A1C, etc.

I wonder how much she gets paid to shill the stuff? I'd market some test strips, meters, insulin, a CGM or whatever for a lot less, although I occasionally bicycle downtown and have some drinks before bicycling home...

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Permalink Reply by Doris D on January 26, 2012 at 6:58pm

I justt gotta say it and I'll probly get into trouble for this but once Type1gal I thought like u. After joining this site and reading the Type 2's problems now I can see it from their point of view too. Now that said (forgive me if that was in any way wrong) lets go to this..It was ok with me that PD held out about telling others about her diagnoses. I wish that I had had that chance back in 73 when I was diagnosed with tYpe 1. I wanted NOONE to know or to treat me any different and ALL did. I was from a very small town and went to a VERY small school. My parents told EVERYBODY what had happened to me and to be sure that I didn't get anything sweet in it (yes only 250 students from k-12 \) and a town with the population of 500 in it. Oh and yes it was a southern town too. AS for her coming out and the contract she has gotten. That's ok too. I think that everyone has to have some adjustment time to the new diagnoses and that takes time. Lets just stabnd behind her like another PWD and support her.

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Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on January 26, 2012 at 8:12pm

I've had a different sort of life experiences but I agree that the journey to T2 is not the same thing as T1. I think that the long-term might be more similar, in that both have similar risks of issues and complications. I was stunned when I started hanging around here reading about the vast number of people who exercise after *every* *single* *meal*. That's tough as nails whether you are 25 or 55 or somewhere else. I'm not totally on board w/ supporting her unless she puts her cards on the table though.

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Permalink Reply by Doris D on January 27, 2012 at 8:26am

U know Ar we have enough food police without us becoming one ourselves. PD will have to do somethings to get everybody on board with her but I hate to say it but I grew up with that good ole southern cooking and to a degree I still do alot of southern cooking. She will have to do what all of us as d ppl have done. CUT BACK on what she eats and how much she eats. I just feel that it takes ALOT of time to come to terms with ur diagnoses of d. When my dr told me at 10 I has Diabetes. All I heard was DIE and I thought I would die really fast. Let's give her sometime b/f we judge her. Yes her recipes are not the best but we have to see that it was such a surprise to her when she was diagnosed that maybe intime she will change her recipes.

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Permalink Reply by smileandnod on January 27, 2012 at 8:41am

Amen Doris!

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