Seems like I should know this by now-- if you check two hours after meal you've bolus dosed for and find you are above your target range-- say, 180 for example-- do you administer a correction dose at that time? Or just learn from it for future reference? I haven't really figured out this concept yet.

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A small change in your activity level can have a huge impact on your basal requirements... this can even be several small tasks that just burn off a little extra BG between meals...there will always be some inconsistency when using lantus..one day your body may absorb 85% and the next day only 60%.

It might be "leftover" insulin kind of lurking around from the prior meal? The "tail" on those graph things runs out for a few hours after the "peak" and, w/ a relatively small dose, a little bit might go a long way? Also, w/ a recent dx, you may still be brewing your own up and having some honeymoon dosing. My honeymoon was over a LONG time ago so I don't recall it and was probably only testing 4-6 times/ day anyway as it was 1984! I snack on a lot of cheese and nuts that have some protein and fat and seem to help keep my BG ok although it's sort of easy to eat a lot of nuts pretty quickly and turn into enough carbs to warrant bolusing?

Interesting. Tested 4 times in row two hours after lunch. One right after the other-- 162-150-134-135. Guess I'll call that about 140 on average.

Wow-- same exact meal at the same exact time, with the same exact preprandial BG and same exact bolus dose as yesterday. The perfect experiment. Yesterday shot me up to 135-160 postprandial (tested several times). Today 68-77 postprandial. I just don't get it. I'm trying so hard to find consistency, and it just appears that there is none. I did go on a leisurely walk after lunch today-- but I exercise much more vigorously than that most days and don't believe it really made that big of a difference. Please tell me it gets easier once this "honeymoon" is over.

Your leisurely walk could indeed make a difference. I used to walk about 12 blocks each way and then stroll around a large market to shop and went low every time.

I think it gets somewhat easier after the honeymoon (I was LADA so had a different experience), but there are still times things seem inconsistent. There are so many variables to deal with so sometimes you can figure out why something happens, but sometimes it is without rhyme or reason.

So my short answer is it gets "easier" but never "easy".

I think one has to decide how high he/she is going to turn up the intensity level on their insulin therapy. My goal is to keep my BG between 70mg/dL and 140mg/dL 90% of the time on any given day. The only way I can do this is to correct after meals and make food selections that do not spike my BG over 140 for long periods of time.

My pump adds correction insulin based on BG and active insulin every time a new bolus is given (sometimes I even correct the correction) and I watch my CGM and make small post meal corrections based on history and what I think my BG is going to do in the next hour or two.

My total correction insulin (30 day) average's about 3-4% of my TDD and if it runs more the 10% then something out of the ordinary has happened that day.

It has taken me over 20 years to settle into a plain that works for me, and I have no real interest in pushing for better results. I have many good days with flat blood sugars and then there is the occasional blowup when the "Bete's" sticks it's tongue out at me.

 

Confirming what others have said re the honeymoon. I'm still in the heart of it and the reality is you cannot accurately predict what your pancreas is going to do when you eat. I find that if I'm around 120 or lower 2 hours post, I will definitely be going low before four hours post. Even if I'm near 200 2 hours post, I'll come down below 120 within another 2 hours. I take no basal, so my pancreas seems a little more active than yours, but I would think correcting at this stage could prove verrrrrry tricky for you.

It's not just the honeymoon. If I eat more than about 20 carbs and my BG is at 120 2 hours later, I will probably end up going low if I don't have a small snack. I'm very sensitive to insulin and I have measurable action 4 hours out.

I know that the honeymoon adds many confusing variables, but even once you're completely insulin dependent it's still hard to get everything to balance out and be consistent day to day.

Do you find that when you eat less carb and bolus less that you don't have as large of a spike, followed by a crash afterward? I've been trying to eat 60 grams of carb with each meal-- which is a lot higher than I think a lot of you are, but considerably lower still than the ADA reccomends--- I definitely think I may be willing to try a different strategy though.

Actually, when I eat more carbs and bolus more...my body seems to like it better. The amount of insulin I take and the carbs I eat don't really seem to make much difference, I can spike on something low carb - grams if I don't get the insulin dose correct, etc.. for me...I just have to wait after I bolus to eat.

BTW, I just switched from novolog to humalog and the change is incredible. Some people do well with all fast actings, some notice no changes, some prefer one over the other. I haven't had one high or spike with humalog, I actually have had to lower my insulin (i've had two significant lows) because it seems to really work fast for me and I seem to need less. I LOVE IT!

Humalog was what I was originally prescribed actually, but they never filled it because my insurance wouldn't cover it, so it got switched to novolog-- wonder if it might make any difference for me as well. I think I can probably get my insurance to cover it but the doctors office would have to call and get it preauthorized I think

maybe wait a bit and see if the novolog helps...sometimes it helps too to eat protein first..let the insulin get going, then try your carbs last. Low carb too, if that's in your plan. You're doing great! My honeymoon was very very tricky too. It will change often and you just need to kinda go with it. Don't worry too much about a spike right now...remember, some CDE's say 180 2 hours ppl is a goal. We tend to like nothing above 140..but you're still new and your body is trying to adjust, still spitting out insulin. As I said, I did not do corrections for a while and started with just doing corrections with meals. It just takes a lot of trial and error. Many people swear by novolog too..so maybe hang tight for a bit. Are you seeing a CDE, do you have a follow up with your endo? Have you checked your BG's one hour after meals, are you checking 2 hours after you start the meal or when you finish the meal. I was told many different theories on this..I check two hours after I finish because sometimes it takes me a long to finish a meal.

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