Seems like I should know this by now-- if you check two hours after meal you've bolus dosed for and find you are above your target range-- say, 180 for example-- do you administer a correction dose at that time? Or just learn from it for future reference? I haven't really figured out this concept yet.

Views: 1024

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

A small change in your activity level can have a huge impact on your basal requirements... this can even be several small tasks that just burn off a little extra BG between meals...there will always be some inconsistency when using day your body may absorb 85% and the next day only 60%.

It might be "leftover" insulin kind of lurking around from the prior meal? The "tail" on those graph things runs out for a few hours after the "peak" and, w/ a relatively small dose, a little bit might go a long way? Also, w/ a recent dx, you may still be brewing your own up and having some honeymoon dosing. My honeymoon was over a LONG time ago so I don't recall it and was probably only testing 4-6 times/ day anyway as it was 1984! I snack on a lot of cheese and nuts that have some protein and fat and seem to help keep my BG ok although it's sort of easy to eat a lot of nuts pretty quickly and turn into enough carbs to warrant bolusing?

Interesting. Tested 4 times in row two hours after lunch. One right after the other-- 162-150-134-135. Guess I'll call that about 140 on average.

Wow-- same exact meal at the same exact time, with the same exact preprandial BG and same exact bolus dose as yesterday. The perfect experiment. Yesterday shot me up to 135-160 postprandial (tested several times). Today 68-77 postprandial. I just don't get it. I'm trying so hard to find consistency, and it just appears that there is none. I did go on a leisurely walk after lunch today-- but I exercise much more vigorously than that most days and don't believe it really made that big of a difference. Please tell me it gets easier once this "honeymoon" is over.

Your leisurely walk could indeed make a difference. I used to walk about 12 blocks each way and then stroll around a large market to shop and went low every time.

I think it gets somewhat easier after the honeymoon (I was LADA so had a different experience), but there are still times things seem inconsistent. There are so many variables to deal with so sometimes you can figure out why something happens, but sometimes it is without rhyme or reason.

So my short answer is it gets "easier" but never "easy".

I think one has to decide how high he/she is going to turn up the intensity level on their insulin therapy. My goal is to keep my BG between 70mg/dL and 140mg/dL 90% of the time on any given day. The only way I can do this is to correct after meals and make food selections that do not spike my BG over 140 for long periods of time.

My pump adds correction insulin based on BG and active insulin every time a new bolus is given (sometimes I even correct the correction) and I watch my CGM and make small post meal corrections based on history and what I think my BG is going to do in the next hour or two.

My total correction insulin (30 day) average's about 3-4% of my TDD and if it runs more the 10% then something out of the ordinary has happened that day.

It has taken me over 20 years to settle into a plain that works for me, and I have no real interest in pushing for better results. I have many good days with flat blood sugars and then there is the occasional blowup when the "Bete's" sticks it's tongue out at me.


It's not just the honeymoon. If I eat more than about 20 carbs and my BG is at 120 2 hours later, I will probably end up going low if I don't have a small snack. I'm very sensitive to insulin and I have measurable action 4 hours out.

I know that the honeymoon adds many confusing variables, but even once you're completely insulin dependent it's still hard to get everything to balance out and be consistent day to day.

Do you find that when you eat less carb and bolus less that you don't have as large of a spike, followed by a crash afterward? I've been trying to eat 60 grams of carb with each meal-- which is a lot higher than I think a lot of you are, but considerably lower still than the ADA reccomends--- I definitely think I may be willing to try a different strategy though.

Actually, when I eat more carbs and bolus body seems to like it better. The amount of insulin I take and the carbs I eat don't really seem to make much difference, I can spike on something low carb - grams if I don't get the insulin dose correct, etc.. for me...I just have to wait after I bolus to eat.

BTW, I just switched from novolog to humalog and the change is incredible. Some people do well with all fast actings, some notice no changes, some prefer one over the other. I haven't had one high or spike with humalog, I actually have had to lower my insulin (i've had two significant lows) because it seems to really work fast for me and I seem to need less. I LOVE IT!

Humalog was what I was originally prescribed actually, but they never filled it because my insurance wouldn't cover it, so it got switched to novolog-- wonder if it might make any difference for me as well. I think I can probably get my insurance to cover it but the doctors office would have to call and get it preauthorized I think

maybe wait a bit and see if the novolog helps...sometimes it helps too to eat protein first..let the insulin get going, then try your carbs last. Low carb too, if that's in your plan. You're doing great! My honeymoon was very very tricky too. It will change often and you just need to kinda go with it. Don't worry too much about a spike right now...remember, some CDE's say 180 2 hours ppl is a goal. We tend to like nothing above 140..but you're still new and your body is trying to adjust, still spitting out insulin. As I said, I did not do corrections for a while and started with just doing corrections with meals. It just takes a lot of trial and error. Many people swear by novolog maybe hang tight for a bit. Are you seeing a CDE, do you have a follow up with your endo? Have you checked your BG's one hour after meals, are you checking 2 hours after you start the meal or when you finish the meal. I was told many different theories on this..I check two hours after I finish because sometimes it takes me a long to finish a meal.

I have met with two different CDEs. I've only met with the one where I live once, the first one was several meetings immediately after initial diagnosis (I was away from home). So far I haven't been to an Endo yet, as I live in Homer, AK and the only place in AK with Endos is Anchorage-- and I haven't made it up there yet (it's about 250 miles away) But my family doctor's daughter is a T1 so I think he probably knows a lot more about it than most. My goal is to check two hours after I start eating-- but in reality with these classes / conferences I'm at all month its hard to be precise, at least during the week. Often anywhere from 1:30 to 2:10.

I just filled out the pre-auth request for dexcom cgm. I really think that would help a lot. Hope I don't get too much of a runaround with the insurance. I can just see them forcing me to collapse a few times before they agree to cover it...




From the Diabetes Hands Foundation blog...

DHF Joins Diabetes Advocacy Alliance

Diabetes Hands Foundation is incredibly honored to join the Diabetes Advocacy Alliance, an organization with the drive and potential to affect a powerful, positive impact on diabetes and healthcare policy. Diabetes Advocacy Alliance is a 20-member coalition of leading professional Read on! →

Helmsley Charitable Trust Renews Support for DHF

HELMSLEY CHARITABLE TRUST GRANTS SUPPORT TO DIABETES HANDS FOUNDATION FOR FOURTH YEAR  Funding in 2015 to support major transitions in programs and leadership at Diabetes Hands Foundation BERKELEY, CA: February 18, 2015 – The Leona M. and Harry B. Helmsley Read on! →

Diabetes Hands Foundation Team


Melissa Lee
(Interim Executive Director, Editor, has type 1)

Manny Hernandez
(Co-Founder, has LADA)

Emily Coles (Head of Communities, has type 1)

Mila Ferrer
(EsTuDiabetes Community Manager, mother of a child with type 1)

Mike Lawson
(Head of Experience, has type 1)

Corinna Cornejo
(Director of Operations and Development, has type 2)

Desiree Johnson  (Administrative and Programs Assistant, has type 1)


Lead Administrator

Brian (bsc) (has type 2)


Lorraine (mother of type 1)
Marie B (has type 1)

DanP (has Type 1)

Gary (has type 2)

David (has type 2)


LIKE us on Facebook

Spread the word


This website is certified by Health On the Net Foundation. Click to verify. This site complies with the HONcode standard for trustworthy health information: verify here.

© 2015   A community of people touched by diabetes, run by the Diabetes Hands Foundation.

Badges  |  Contact Us  |  Terms of Service