Can any one tell me whether i should take any shots when i eat mere proteins .. i mean like grilled chicken , tuna fish ....
I've had my carbs under cotrol for a week now but i've greatly increased the protein intake .. i can eat more than a whole chicken a day :S
The thing is my BG seems to be stuck at 200s .. could it be the proteins .. or they just don't affect the blood sugar ???
They affect your BG. 53% of protein is converted to carbohydrates so a can of tuna, say 2x 15G of protein servings, would be 15G of carbs. I think it might be a bit slower to work than carbs, particularly faster acting ones but I get better results when I add in a bit of extra carbs in my count to cover the protein. Particularly if it's a lot of it.
Ok .. Thanks .. I guess i'll just keep the proteins loww as well !
Glad you asked because I've gone back and forth on this topic a lot and I'm always wondering the same thing. I started trying to bolus for protein a while back since it's still something that breaks down into carbohydrates. Same with fats. The insulin always seems too sharp to play around with. Nowadays protein seems to be part of my IC ratio. I don't calculate for the 53% but I need to include some protein as it covers the tail.
I still wonder if I should do some math with each meal and sorta "dual-wave".
Thankfully there are many ways to cook a chicken.
Since I only eat about 50g/day of carbs, much of my glucose load comes from protein. I bolus half the grams of protein as carbs. protein is digested over a longer period of time (3-5 hours), I might also delay my bolus until after the meal (or take an extended or dual wave bolus with a pump).
I also eat my fair share of chicken. It is hard to beat a $5 rotisserie chicken.
Yeah ..I think I've noticed that my BG actually starts to rise after a huge protein meal after 4 or 5 hours and then i get confused .. so i might as well delay the shots instead of not taking at all .. Thanks :)
Many talk about proteins as if they were "free foods", and they only count carbohydrates, but that has simplification has NEVER worked for me.
They kick in as a bg rise not immediately after the meal, but 3-4 hours after the meal.
Good old Regular insulin is a good match to a lot of low-carb high-protein meals. Humalog or other fast acting analogs can kick in way too fast.
I think that here or elsewhere, dosing for proteins is part of "TAG" = "Total Available Glucose".
Thanks for the example Terry .. but can u please give me the link to that group ??
Thank You soo much for the support ! :)
ohh .. i just found the group .. never mind .. Thanks :D
Absolutely. Proteins will elevate your blood sugar like anything else, but just at a slower rate over a longer period of time. I use Regular insulin to cover my bacon and eggs breakfasts, for example, and it does an excellent job in keeping my BG almost flat.
Yes, when you cut out processed carbs your body turns to fats and proteins as its primary source of fuel. My appetite also grew substantially, but I also dropped down to my ideal weight within 3 months and my energy levels increased dramatically.
I can easily devour a whole chicken in a day and then some... Gotta love those grocery store rotisserie chickens. :-)
yeah .. so u really think if i turn to proteins and fats more than carbs i'd lose the extra weight ?! then i'm sticking to what i'm doing but i'll just try to adjust the bolus i guess .. well thanks for the support Christopher :)
Yes indeed. If you transition your metabolism to a ketogenic state, only deriving your carbs from vegetables and a very limited amount of nuts (almonds, pistachios), you will see remarkable results in blood sugar control, weight loss, and energy levels.
There is a lot of good information out there that gives greater detail and supporting research and data. I would recommend Diet101 by Jenny Ruhl (a member of this forum), Wheat Belly by William Davis, and Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution.
I dropped from 205 to 175 in around 3 months and have leveled off there, which is my ideal BMI of around 23 (I'm 6ft). This is the first holiday season where I did not feel bloated or where I gained weight. I've also shed my carbohydrate cravings in the process (this can happen pretty quickly, in fact. Even within the first couple of weeks).