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Permalink Reply by John Brush on November 16, 2009 at 8:16pm

Thanks for bringing up that result you found. I haven't used it, only read about it. Kind of expensive too :-)

Those who have said they use it successfully, are adamant about the cooking time, and have said if they go over, then their numbers act like they ate regular pasta, so I have to ask, even if its redundant, if you were as accurate as you could be with the cooking time? Hope that doesn't put you off like I am saying you did it wrong or something. I just like information that I can use.

Thanks,

John

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Permalink Reply by Mila on November 16, 2009 at 10:34pm

Hi John,

I'm sure I didn't overcook the Dreamfields-pasta and I did find it a little too chewy :-)
I do have strange BG-reactions on any kind of wheatproduct, so maybe I'm just an exception.

And I appreciate your reaction, that's what we're here for, aren't we ?!

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Permalink Reply by Gerriann Tobkin on November 15, 2009 at 7:56pm

For you morning cereal lovers...take a look at Special K Protein Plus - 9 net Carbs
I can't put fruit in it or drink the milk that remains in the bowl without a prolonged high (several hours)...

Highs for me are 120 to 130. Rarely do I go over 130 and I am happier if I am between 90 and 110. I try to keep tight control.
I can't eat pasta or bread (not even a little bit) unless I get right on the bike and work some of that sugar out. My son's favorite food is pasta so I do eat it (tonight as a matter of fact)...I just plan accordingly.

The A1C is important...however, in my humble opinion, it is given too much weight. Keep in mind that it is simply an average and a person could spend a significant amount of time with high BSG levels that causes damage and still have an acceptable A1C. Again, in my humble opinion, the key is to know your body and what certain foods will do to you. TEST...TEST...TEST and TEST some more.

I am a non-insulin using T2 and take metformin 2x day. Good Luck!

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Permalink Reply by John Brush on November 16, 2009 at 8:21pm

Amen to that. I think a lot about how the A1c is just another tool, but not the ultimate for the same reason you mention. When I screw up, or just say "what the heck" I can get numbers that are pretty high for me, approaching 180, but they are gone in an hour, which will have very little effect on my A1c. Since I am in the 80's when I go to bed, and still there in the morning, that will make my A1c look pretty good if I behave myself during the day, but the spikes still do their damage if they happen

I try to stay in the same ranges you mention, and usually do okay, but sometimes, even when I eat the same thing, at the same time as a few days back, when I test, the numbers are higher. Not sure why that would be, but it does show that my body is having a hell of a time with this

I am T2, no drugs or insulin.

John

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Permalink Reply by Gerriann Tobkin on November 23, 2009 at 1:42pm

John...you sound like you've tracked your numbers for a while, so you probably already know that there are many things besides food that can affect your BS...exercise, lack of sleep, stress, illness, strong emotions, when you get too hot or too cold, etc. I know there are more...just can't think of them now.

Keep up the good work!

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Permalink Reply by Paul Curwen on November 21, 2009 at 7:05am

Hi Bob,

Yes, I'm having a tough time with the weight... My Dr said not to worry as its the change in diet. I have changed my exercise routine from 4 days of 45 min jogs to walking 1hr + 15 mins everyday. I really enjoy the walking, it helps clear my mind and my wife can join me most of the time :) I will never give up the exercise!

I had 1 cup of All Bran with 1 cup of soy milk yesterday and my 1 hour was (9.3) 167 and 2 hour was (5.4) 97. I've been told and read that any spike over 140 could be harmful in the long term. Would you be worried about my 1 hour spike? I don't want to break down my remaining good cells?

Actually, I haven't given up on the beer ;) I have don't some testing and every time I have a couple of beers (tested 6 times now) I am always lower an hour and 2 hours after drinking. I have never been higher... Ditto with a glass of red wine.

Breakfast just seems to be the toughest meal for me as I've been eating cereal all my life and just cant eat eggs and meat every morning...

Thanks for your comments... Paul

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Permalink Reply by Frank the Lege on November 21, 2009 at 9:00am

Your reading for 1 hous is a little high but for 2 hours is good. I've been told that it's the 2 hours one that is the best one to make a judgement on.

Having said that, the 1 hour result of yours is a cause for concern.

I'm most sensitive to carbs first thing in the morning so avoid them and have either eggs, bacon or sometimes sausage. Or I might have canned pork luncheon tongue or a small can of mackerel or some smoked mackerel from a packet.

I'm afraid in the world of diabetes "can't eat" doesn't exist. You have no option but to avoid cereals unless you can find one that doesn't cause a spike. I used to love cereals but I learned to do without them. I'm afraid that diabetes is all about trade offs.

I can't see any reason for you to give up beer or red wine as your body is telling you that it has no problem with those drinks. However maybe it's the beer and wine that are causing the weight probs? It depends how much often you have beer.

Grrr. Sometimes I feel you just can't win with Diabetes. Ok Mr Diabetes if I can't beat ya then lets compromise, ok? I'll have a beer now and again.

Hmm I think I need my meds lol.

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Permalink Reply by Gerriann Tobkin on November 23, 2009 at 1:47pm

Frank...I beg to differ...in my world of diabetes "can't eat" is alive and well. There are foods that I loved and haven't touched since my diagnosis.

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Permalink Reply by Frank the Lege on November 25, 2009 at 12:59pm

You misunderstood me Geriann. I meant "can't eat" as in "can't eat salads etc". I gave up a lot of foods I loved cos they were too carby and opted to eat amongst other things a salad every day which I first hated.

People should not say they can't eat this or that because they don't like it even when it's good for them.

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Permalink Reply by Libby on November 21, 2009 at 8:32pm

Hi, Paul,
I have similar numbers to you when I eat higher carb, especially in the morning. I would rather not go above 140 even at one hour, because if it happens every time I eat that can add up to quite a bit of time and I want to preserve my beta cells for as long as possible. (I have LADA)
I rarely eat meat and prefer something sweet for breakfast but am gluten intolerant so I can't eat wheat. Luckily there are some good low carb alternatives. Have you tried making pancakes or muffins with almond or coconut flour? I also make "granola" from toasted nuts- walnuts with cinnamon, sweetened with a few dried dates, apricots or raisins, taste surprisingly like cereal . Another breakfast favorite is full fat yogurt with a small amount of fruit (berries are fairly low carb) and some toasted hazelnuts. I like smoothies made with some combination of almond milk, almond butter, yogurt, coconut milk/coconut oil and berries. Let me know if you would like recipes. I have a fabulous recipe for a baked apple pancake that is pretty low carb and tastes great.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Curwen on November 25, 2009 at 1:17pm

Hi Libby,

So am I correct in that with LADA this will eventually progress into Type I? I haven't had the test for LADA yet. Do you think its something I should have?

Any recipes would be appreciated.

Thanks, Paul

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Permalink Reply by John Brush on November 21, 2009 at 8:20pm

Always the disclaimer: I am making this life process up as I go along, and so when I read that someone's doctor says that the one hour reading doesn't matter, I sit right up and take notice.

I am listening to anyone who wants to dispute my theory, all for the good of learning, but the one hour reading is -very- important, and I think any doctor who says otherwise, needs to be taken out for an afternoon of electroshock therapy.

All I have is my own experience, and constant testing has shown me many, many times, that I have overdone it, and in the first hour, I am 175 or there about, while after two hours, I am 100. Maybe I am not so far along with T2 yet that my body can recover faster, but its not good for me to do that to it. No exercise or anything, and not always, but it happens and to the best of my knowledge, spiking over 140 is a bad thing to do. If I take the advice of the doctor who says to only test after two hours, then I will go the rest of my life, constantly spiking 140+, and never, ever knowing it, thinking all is well. This will keep my A1c number looking good, because an hour is nothing over the course of months, but I am basically killing my organs and walking closer and closer to insulin and lots of meds, all because someone told me that two hours is all I need to test.

I say, rather adamantly, but with no malice :-) that when eating foods you are not real positive about, you need to test right before, and then an hour, and two hours later, possibly even three hours if two is still high. Anything less, is not giving enough information to make a good decision on your diet.

If you don't test before you eat, you don't know how high that meal/food pushed your numbers, so you are wasting strips just testing two hours after you eat. For all you know, you may be 125 before you even eat, and in two hours, you are at 160. That is not a bad rise, but you started too high to begin with, so you need to be aware ofit, and to understand why.

Sometimes, when I am really hungry (which coincides with being bored ) I test myself and based on that number, I decide what I can and cannot eat. For instance, if I get an 85, I am gonna have a full scale meal which I already know will bump me forty points. If I am 100, then I might rethink the menu and leave out some things I know will push me too far.

Doctors who tell you when to test? Bah humbug! They don't know what they are talking about, and it should be obvious to all, that I don't care for that attitude from them. Its my disease, its my life, they are my organs, and all I want from the doctor is the prescription for the tools I need to control it, assuming I have insurance.

For decades, people died because they could not monitor their blood sugar. Doctors just told those people they were diabetic, don't eat sugar, "have a nice day" then waited around for the amputations and the surgeries that followed. Now we have meters, and Doctors are STILL saying the same thing. We have learned to use the tools, they are still using stone knives and bearskins.

Giving up beer isn't crazy. Listening to someone who doesn't have this very personal disease, and following their unfounded advice instead of common sense and listening to all those who are out here fighting it every day, now that is crazy.

John

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