Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by still_young_at_heart on April 29, 2012 at 7:44pm

But the results of the study are pretty alarming - under current regimes nothing seems to work very well. One possible conclusion which no one made is that a radically low carb diet may be necessary for these teens to meet basic treatment goals.

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by Cosumne Jan on April 29, 2012 at 7:58pm

Right, I wonder what sort of "diet" the kids were on who were in the metformin and diet group? And some of these kids have pretty heavy-duty diabetes, it seems, if they're already taking insulin. I wonder if they're really T2s? When I read the nejm article, I found no reference to what they considered "lifestyle changes." It could have simply been adherence to the carb-laden ADA diet, which as some of us have discovered is a quick path to failure.

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by nel on April 29, 2012 at 8:27pm

I have not read the study ,I maybe missing something , however I have seen recent reports on TV of parents serving their kids Nutalla on brown bread for breakfast ?? ...Parents not reading food labels ?? ...very sad . This has nothing to do with ADA or any other diet ...this has to do with education .

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by Gerri on April 29, 2012 at 11:43pm

Cosumme Jan gave a link to the study & also as an attachment.

Nutella TV ads in the US promoting it as a breakfast option. Wonder if it's any worse than breakfast cereal & toaster pastries that are also marketed to kids & parents. No one seems to be doing an expose on that junk, or any other processed food kids eat.

Seen plenty of unhealthy food recommended by the ADA & CDA. Is sad.

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by nel on April 30, 2012 at 10:27am

Gerri ...true ...cereal breakfasts , toaster pastries ..same stuff as the Nutella stuff and who knows what else...what I am getting at is the eating prior to diagnosis of the different diseases . Parents not teaching kids to make healthy life choices, because they have not taken the time to being educated and sharing their knowledge .

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by nel on April 30, 2012 at 10:44am

But what do I know ...not being a parent :) ????

...( living with d almost 30 years )

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by ycarter43 on April 30, 2012 at 10:43am

I found this link really interesting: https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/53270-to-prevent-type-ii-d... It's basically a conversation between two doctors about what causes type II diabetes. There are a variety of factors and it's no one's "fault," but it seems like weight gain is definitely associated with developing type II.

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by BadMoonT2 on April 30, 2012 at 11:25am

The big question is a "chicken or the egg one". Was the weight gain the cause of pre diabetes or a result of it. You can argue either side, but at this point I think it's safe to say, we really don't know.

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by still_young_at_heart on April 30, 2012 at 8:06pm

A delay of 30 years counts for quite a bit.

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on April 30, 2012 at 3:48pm

I saw this too and wondered if the sort of teenage "propensity" to eat like wolves, piles of junk food, with little regard for "sense" or whatever might make an additional complication for this situation?

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by Cosumne Jan on April 30, 2012 at 4:15pm

In my experience, teenagers eat whatever is on the table. They don't do the shopping or the cooking. Not many of them have enough money to eat fast food all the time. So if they're getting bad food choices, the chances are very good they aren't the ones who are at fault. What is a teenager supposed to do? Turn down what's being served and ask for better food? I think none of the 3 groups that were studied got enough information or treatment to help them succeed. But it's hard to tell because there are no details about the diet. The whole notion of throwing a few pills at someone and telling them to exercise and watch their diet is severely lacking, but adults at least are in charge of their own lives.

• ▶ Reply

Permalink Reply by still_young_at_heart on April 30, 2012 at 8:05pm

There was additional information in a couple of articles in the NY Times and Wall Street Journal about the study. The teens did substantially worse than adults using the same regimes which was a suprise especially as those who were unable to keep their A1cs under 8 or 8.5 included many who were highly compliant.

One doc noted that 50 years ago, kids didn't make better food choices. Rather they lived in a more active and less calorie laden environment.

I don't think there was any attempt to or interest in blaming the teens for their diabetes. I also don't think it makes sense to ignore the fact that increasing rates of childhood obesity has contributed the the increase in T2 among teenagers. Having to deal with T2 at 55 is bad enough; it is much more difficult to have to deal with it at 16 and have an additional 40 years to develop complications.

• ▶ Reply

• ‹ Previous
• 1
• 2
• Next ›
• Page