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Permalink Reply by Brian (bsc) on February 3, 2013 at 4:24pm

For me, white rice is gram for gram of carb basically the same as table sugar.

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Permalink Reply by Zoe on February 3, 2013 at 4:25pm

Welcome to the "impossible foods" club! We all have foods that we just can't bolus for accurately (see the food graveyard thread!). Rice is one of those foods for many of us. I figured out early on that I just couldn't eat it anymore; exactly as you said, "no matter how little I eat and how much insulin I do". Yep it's frustrating but after awhile you just "get the message" and find something else to eat. You can still enjoy Thai food, just skip the rice!

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Permalink Reply by JohnG on February 3, 2013 at 4:28pm

Eating rice is almost the same as eating raw sugar GI and GL for Common Foods
Food	GI	Serving Size	Net Carbs	GL
Peanuts	14	4 oz (113g)	15	2
Bean sprouts	25	1 cup (104g)	4	1
Grapefruit	25	1/2 large (166g)	11	3
Pizza	30	2 slices (260g)	42	13
Lowfat yogurt	33	1 cup (245g)	47	16
Apples	38	1 medium (138g)	16	6
Spaghetti	42	1 cup (140g)	38	16
Carrots	47	1 large (72g)	5	2
Oranges	48	1 medium (131g)	12	6
Bananas	52	1 large (136g)	27	14
Potato chips	54	4 oz (114g)	55	30
Snickers Bar	55	1 bar (113g)	64	35
Brown rice	55	1 cup (195g)	42	23
Honey	55	1 tbsp (21g)	17	9
Oatmeal	58	1 cup (234g)	21	12
Ice cream	61	1 cup (72g)	16	10
Macaroni and cheese	64	1 serving (166g)	47	30
Raisins	64	1 small box (43g)	32	20
White rice	64	1 cup (186g)	52	33
Sugar (sucrose)	68	1 tbsp (12g)	12	8
White bread	70	1 slice (30g)	14	10
Watermelon	72	1 cup (154g)	11	8
Popcorn	72	2 cups (16g)	10	7
Baked potato	85	1 medium (173g)	33	28
Glucose	100	(50g)	50	50

The table below shows values of the

Read More http://nutritiondata.self.com/topics/glycemic-index#ixzz2Jsx5NYTA

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Permalink Reply by Jing Jing on February 3, 2013 at 4:57pm

For me, any food that is readily absorbed like sugar, I make sure that I wait 15 to 20 minutes to eat after I bolus. As for white rice, I have switched to brown rice which is not significantly different from white rice (carb wise), but the glycemic index is just different enough that I can handle it if I give myself the 15 to 20 minute lead time.

Some foods though, just don't work for me so I understand. (It's oatmeal for me.)

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Permalink Reply by christy on February 3, 2013 at 5:05pm

While rice is certainly one of those foods that is "almost impossible" to dose for, it might also be added ingredients to the Thai food. I love Chinese, but the corn starches that is used, along with a lot of the sauces for the food, is definately a blood sugar spike waiting to happen.

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Permalink Reply by Karen on February 3, 2013 at 6:35pm

Oatmeal, I go super high over bolus and then drop like a ton of bricks. Oatmeal, all cereals, rice, all on a list of foods I avoid.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Ratrie on February 3, 2013 at 6:35pm

Yes, white rice is definitely a problem. I typically make sure I have a MAXIMUM of 1/2 cup, then I double the carb count. From there, using the pump, I use the multiwave function and give the first half of the bolus right away, with the remainder over the next 3 hours. I always follow up with lots of testing and adjustments as needed.

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Permalink Reply by Spock on February 4, 2013 at 5:28pm

Any Oriental food is problematic. There are hidden carbs, so it may not always be the white rice. If you are on a pump, I suggest a larger bolus and a square wave. I use that for Thai and Chinese and it works well for me!

Rice is hard, but check out the carbs in PAD THAI!!

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Permalink Reply by Zoe on February 4, 2013 at 5:55pm

Or you can learn to make various Asian foods at home so you have control over what you put in it, from a simple stir fry to authentic Thai dishes. You can use all natural ingredients and skip cornstarch or sugar in sauces, and of course, that pesky rice!

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Permalink Reply by David (dns) on February 4, 2013 at 5:48pm

We each respond to things in our own individual way. I am VERY carb sensitive; eating white rice sends me through the roof. Might as well just eat a bowl of sugar. On the other hand, I know people who can handle it, at least in modest amounts. We each have our own personal physiology. C'est la vie.

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Permalink Reply by Ruth on February 4, 2013 at 8:55pm

There's also frequently a lot of hidden sugar in Thai food. Tom yun gung soup. for example, has a lot of sugar in it. So it may not be the rice at all.

Ruth

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Permalink Reply by rick phillips on February 4, 2013 at 9:14pm

Because it is evil.

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