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Permalink Reply by Dean Phillips on December 31, 2012 at 6:10pm

I see what you are trying to say, but it sounds a lot like you are relying on the "experts" or "authority" to tell us what to eat. This is a problem because it takes away the responsibility of the individual. It doesn't take rocket science to know that eating more fresh fruit and vegetables, nuts and whole foods, is going to be way better than processed carbs!! I don't understand why people want others to tell them what is okay to eat, as if we don't know as a nation that eating fast food on a regular basis leads to all sorts of health issues!! Pure insanity!

Hard to be in a spot where you know that many of what people complain about has to do with how they treat their own bodies and what they put in them, but no matter how well I eat, I will never get better!!

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Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on December 31, 2012 at 6:18pm

...what I'm trying to say is that people with diabetes, particularly those of us who test our BG relatively frequently, are the people with "The Right Stuff" who can provide data to prove or disprove theses about food. But we are looked at as fragile or corrupted and they don't look at our reams of data.

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Permalink Reply by Dean Phillips on December 31, 2012 at 6:32pm

I see!

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Permalink Reply by Natalie ._c- on December 31, 2012 at 8:22pm

Well, when, Lake Wobegon to the contrary, half of the population is NOT above average, and there is a fast-food joint on every corner, and the grocery store is LOADED with boxed, highly-processed, high-carb foods proudly proclaiming themselves to be low-fat, and the high-carb food pyramid has been SO ingrained into our national psyche, I DON'T think you can just write it off to personal responsibility. There are LOTS of people doing the best they can with what they know, and it's mostly not their fault that what they know may not be correct. Even the "experts" are arguing about it -- what does little Joe Schmoe or his wife Josephine know about it?

And then they don't know how to cook, anyway, and it takes too much time to cook from scratch when they're both working, and the Hamburger Helper box makes it SO much easier! Sure, natural foods, but do you know how intimidating all those round things are when you don't know what to do with them? Grandma did, but she's gone, now, and cooking is NOT part of the high-school curriculum!! (In my day, it was a jr. high requirement for girls, but not for boys)

I guess I've got my dander up, because it's so much easier to criticize than to help. And to make assumptions about what we as a nation know, when there is no such thing as the nation -- only individuals trying to make their way in the world. Affluent, educated people probably know a good bit about what might constitute good nutrition, but they aren't the whole nation, by a long shot.

Sorry for the rant!

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Permalink Reply by Judith on December 31, 2012 at 8:50pm

Natalie. Thank you for your "uppity Dander" as usual. The horror stories of ignorance apall me. I've had to get "dandery" with pharmacists and RNS and you name it. And I carry TuD postcards with me at all times as I engage with "just folks" on my walks and our MAX lightrail and Amtrak, etc. The level of ignorance is mind-boggling and makes my heart ache.

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Permalink Reply by Dean Phillips on December 31, 2012 at 9:57pm

Well I don't mind helping as many people as I can. Every chance I get to educate someone I do. Just did it today in a group I was in. These people have little idea about the different types of D, or at least nothing other than knowing there is two types. Agreed about the level of ignorance out there!! T1 caused me to educate myself, so perhaps there was a blessing in disguise. Much as I wish it never had happened!!

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Permalink Reply by Hakima on January 1, 2013 at 5:49pm

One of the most annoying comments I have received is, "what did you do to get diabetes?"

Another is. "you don't look like you have diabetes."

And a third is... "You're on insulin? I'm so sorry!!."

ALL ANNOYING!!!

Since I got diagnosed a little over four years ago, I've spent more time educating people who know very little or nothing at all!! I get so annoyed about comments regarding my supplies that I carry around, how often I test, who's grandparent had diabetes & never tested, etc. etc. etc. And then there is the infamous Diabetes Police, "YOU CAN'T EAT THAT!!"

I wish I could say there was one comment that stands out, but there isn't!!

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Permalink Reply by smileandnod on January 2, 2013 at 8:17am

Usually, I don't let uninformed comments get to me, but the holiday season found me struggling with major bg fluctuations and ignorant comments from family members who should know better by now...

From my sister-in-law right after I had served Christmas dinner (I served many low carb options so that I could have control over what I was eating): "My friends said that if you walk every day, your diabetes will go away". Wow, why didn't I think of that? (especially since I'm Type 1).

Texts from my brother and my daughter on New Year's Day: "Did ya'll eat black-eyed peas today?". No, I chose not to carb load with my bg stuck over 200 for 12 hours while I figured out if it was a site problem or a hormone issue (apparently hormones again).

Thank you for letting me vent. These comments just really rubbed me the wrong way because I've been struggling in a major way with control.

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Permalink Reply by Herr Pumpernickel on January 5, 2013 at 7:59am

Where do I start?

Being told I need statins with a cholesterol of 4.5 mmol/l. When earlier use left me in pain with a cholesterol of 6.4 mmol/l. I now eat butter no marg too, heh heh.

Being told we are at more risk of just about anything. IMO we're monitored more, period! Also the self fulfilling prophecy aspects of this are disturbing. How about focusing on keeping us healthy for a change and without chucking chemicals at the mere distant site of an 'abnormality'?

Being told that a sugar of 27-33 mmol/l (500-600 mg/dl)is not grounds for admission if there are no ketones (you still rapidly dehydrate), and due to ongoing abnormal bleeding from sets and injection sites.

In my experience we make a lot of medics nervous. Simply because we know more about ourselves and the condition than they do.

I could go on!

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Permalink Reply by Dean Phillips on January 5, 2013 at 8:08am

It ain't easy being D!! Especially when you bring others, who don't have to deal with it on a day to day basis, into it!! I generally do just fine with my control. So much so that even on the odd occasion where it impacts me enough to do something others are not familiar with, they have to remind themselves that I have this condition. It can just be that easy to not remember for them, while I can not really relax about it, no breaks or vacations for us!!

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Permalink Reply by Wren on January 5, 2013 at 8:47am

When sharing my diagnosis with a co-worker, she said, "Don't worry, diabetes is really easy to manage." My jaw almost hit the floor! Fortunately, another co-worker who had T1 in his family was also in the conversation, and he helped me clear up that misconception.

Another thing... I've never had a bad low in the presence of my mom & sisters, but they get this anxious look and tone of voice when they think I might need to eat something. So patronizing!

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Permalink Reply by Dean Phillips on January 5, 2013 at 9:10am

Don't usually see the need in including others, as much as possible, with my lows. Needing others to take care of me is an uncomfortable thought. Haven't cared for it in the past either, when I was helped by others. Glad they did help me, just believe I should be able to take care of myself, and encourage others to do the same!

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