I know this seems really basic, but is something I've always been unclear of. I always hear that insulin is like a key that lets glucose into your cells to be used as energy. So; if you take too much insulin, your cells suddenly suck too much of the sugar out of your blood, causing hypoglycemia. Why are your cells able to absorb more glucose than they need? And what do they use said energy for? What do the cells do with the excess glucose? It just disappears?
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Permalink Reply by Super_sally on February 6, 2013 at 11:55pm Yes, excess insulin makes excess sugar go into the cells.
This sugar is then converted to and stored as fat. That's why having too much insulin means you have to keep eating to stop going low, and also why excess insulin (eating to match the insulin, rather than matching insulin to food eaten) also causes weight gain.
This is also part of the mechanism why some persons with type 2 gain weight so easily.
Permalink Reply by Sam Iam on February 7, 2013 at 12:24am And the insulin prevents the fat from being broken back down into glucose. Thanks, Sally. Makes sense. I can't believe I never figured this part out.
Permalink Reply by Brian (bsc) on February 7, 2013 at 4:48am So insulin certainly enables the uptake of glucose into our cells, but it also acts as a signaling hormone. When your dietary sources of glucose run low, the normal non-diabetic will lower their insulin levels and raise their glucagon levels to signal the liver to produce glucose (gluconeogenesis). When your insulin levels are too high, you actually suppress this glucose production further causing hypos. This same effect occurs with alcohol which is metabolized by our livers, gluconeogenesis is suppressed and we can suffer a hypo.
And Sally is right, fat burning (ketosis) is suppressed with higher insulin levels. But during ketosis fat is converted to ketone bodies (by our livers) and our cells actually burn ketones rather than glucose.
I've never been really confused by the hypo thing, what has always confused me is my son. He sits there, eats 250g of carbs in a sitting, has presumably normal blood sugar and insulin levels, yet he gains no weight. Where does all that glucose go? It can't go into his cells, we only store some 300 g of glycogen and he is a couch potato. And he doesn't convert it to bodyfat, he is rail thin. And we only excrete glucose when our blood sugar gets high (> 180 mg/dl), which he doesn't have. Where does it go? That is what I want to know.
Permalink Reply by Asma on February 7, 2013 at 5:36am His basal metabolism rate is higher than average for some reason?
Permalink Reply by Brian (bsc) on February 7, 2013 at 1:18pm Well, this may be part of it. Clearly our metabolism slows as we age. And there are differences between individuals in terms of metabolism rate, but the differences are more like 25-30%. Still far from enough to explain the discrepancy.
Permalink Reply by Sam Iam on February 7, 2013 at 8:49am I know a few people like this. My only explanation is that the cells are using this energy. It could be for brain activity, or maybe he's just fidgeting or doing something invisible that demands energy. Maybe his body temperature is slightly elevated.
Permalink Reply by Asma on February 7, 2013 at 11:05am Hyperthyroidism increases your metabolism rate. People with hypothyroidism tend to fidget and usually have higher than average temperature. Anybody see a connection here?
Permalink Reply by Sam Iam on February 7, 2013 at 12:59pm I have a 3 yr old who was born premature, and is chronically underweight. He dropped for 20 to 3rd percentile on the growth chart after he quit breastfeeding. I test his BG periodically. He's always normal. Has his thyroid tested twice, along with full battery of tests. All normal. He is very strong, active and otherwise seems fine.
Permalink Reply by acidrock23 on February 7, 2013 at 4:51am I always figured there was a superstructural, brain component to hypos, like your brain gets fried as the main cause of the symptoms, figuring that since brains are convoluted and cooking away all the time, they need more blood/ energy/ etc. than the rest of us.
Permalink Reply by Asma on February 7, 2013 at 5:33am As everybody else mentioned, the excess glucose is converted into fat/glycogen for future use. Insulin is an anabolic hormone. When you have excess amounts of insulin and ATP, glycogenesis is promoted through positive feedback.
Permalink Reply by Mishi on February 7, 2013 at 10:38am Sam hello we chatted once in the room this is a article i think you can follow about why insulin and hypoglycemia synthesize so much i hope its not to technical for you and if you need any questions answering i will very happy to.Its a excerlent paper
Manny Hernandez(Co-Founder, Editor, has LADA)
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