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Comment by Liam on June 26, 2011 at 5:57pm

Hi Nel. You're 100% correct Gluten is not (and is not related to Glucose) Gluten is a protein not a carbohydrate or sugar. Although if you have celiac or a gluten sensitivity the damage it does to your digestive tract can have an impact on how your body absorbs sugars.

Comment by nel on June 26, 2011 at 5:16pm

I did not know that gluten = sugar as Rob P. mentioned ...am I misunderstanding ??This is what I found : " Gluten is not a protein itself but rather a protein composite, composed of the proteins glutenin and gliadin (in wheat), secalin (in rye) and hordein (in barley), which are elastic proteins in the protein family known as prolamins. Gluten is insoluble in water and comes from the endosperm (see the accompanying picture) within the seeds of grass-related grains.


Gluten Origin

Gluten exists in the grass-like grains wheat, barley, rye, kamut and spelt. Gluten provides an elasticity and glue-like capacity to hold its flour products together and provide them with a chewy texture. While western civilization has come to rely on gluten not only as an important nutritional protein but also as a utility for obtaining a desired texture and elasticity in foods, in recent years some substantial and controversial studies suggest our bodies may not tolerate and digest gluten as well as everyone had always assumed. It is worth noting that some people believe this applies to everyone, and not just people suffering from some degree of gluten sensitivity" .
PS Every one's comments would have made an interesting Discussion Forum Topic .
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Comment by Rob Paterson on June 26, 2011 at 3:50am

I agree DD - We are not machines. A metaphor that I like is a wood stove. Different kinds of fuel burn differently. Hard wood long and resin packed softwood fast. It is how our fuel burns that is the key. That and who we are. We evolved for millions of year eating only tiny amounts of volatile foods. Agriculture is really new only 7,000 years old max and of course Industrial food is less than 50 years old.

If we look at the rise of the epidemic of T2D we see it start in 1980. With a date we have to ask what happened - we responded to something new. What was this? I think we all know.

HFCS was introduced. A new wheat strain with much more gluten (sugar) was introduced. Factory farming took off. Bovinr Growth Hormone. We cooked less and we bought more processed foods. Foods that are really chemistry. Where most of the energy comes from carbs - 85% today for most North Americans.

So if we turn away from Industrial Food, we will start to get better. We live on "Sugar" - Glucose and Fructose"

We have been hoodwinked by the Fat makes us Fat story that has been shot down by science. We get fat by the insulin pathway

Comment by DiabetesDancer on June 25, 2011 at 4:44pm

Thanks, Rob, for the links and reference to Mary Vernon. I've been finding out about the hormonal approach since hearing a talk by Gary Taubes. It makes so much more sense than the calories in/calories out mechanical model.

Comment by Sweetblooded on June 25, 2011 at 10:27am

My dad's (and mine, both of us are type 1) recommended a 3000 calorie diet for him, he is not a big guy at all, he is average with muscle from his hard labor construction work all his life, she recommended 1200-1600 cals for me, I am only 5 feet tall and 125 pounds, sounds like this is too much. But to be honest we don't count our cal intake, just the carbs.

Comment by Rob Paterson on June 25, 2011 at 7:56am

Chipping in late here - hope you don't mind.

I have learned that T2D comes from insulin resistance - so the key is to think about our insulin response. This in turn traps sugars into fats and makes our fat inaccessible to our system. So it feeds on itself.

Any "Diet" that merely reduces calories misses the point. The work is to get the fat burning pathway open again. To do this we have to stop eating food that drives up our need for insulin - and that is simple carbs. In fact all carbs will do this but the more processed and simple the worse off we are.

I have my daily intake down to less than 50 grams. This is ideal to "heal" More than 150 is in the danger zone and 300 plus is trouble. Here is a neat chart for this

I eat a lot of calories a day and never feel hungry. I have lost 30 lbs and my blood numbers are like a 25 year old - I am 61. I look and feel completely different - much more energy too.

Here is the best resourceI have seen on the entire topic by Dr Mary Vernon.

Comment by albertacowpoke on June 25, 2011 at 7:43am

Diet and exercise certainly worked for me in a three months period. Going from and A1C of 8.4 to 6.5 in that time, for now, seems to work. Most of my random readings are below 7.0 now, although occasionally it is higher even after an hour of walking (about 4 miles). I also found that an hour on an exercise bike (18 miles) seems to reduce my glucose level more.

I think the thing to note is that this condition works in weird and wonderful ways and what works today, may not work tomorrow. You always have to have a watchful eye so it doesn't get away from you. A good dialogue with your doctor is also essential. Many physicians still need to be educated. We are the stewards of our own health.

Comment by DiabetesDancer on June 25, 2011 at 7:23am

A much healthier form of the 'smelt diet' has been in use by a band of First Nations people (we don't call them Indians in Canada anymore) in Alert Bay. There was a documentary made of it, called "My Big Fat Diet".
www.cbc.ca/thelens/bigfatdiet/

Comment by DiabetesDancer on June 25, 2011 at 7:18am

Thank you for the concern, Linda, but that is not what I said I was wanting to do. Plse read my comments again. The UK study was a small experiment with a specific population and an extreme intervention. Not for me. There would have to be a lot more testing before one can draw any conclusions from this regimen.
What got my curiousity going is the '30 day diabetes cure' by Ripich--an unfortunate title that may attract the ignorant (and me), but is a gradual lifestyle change process that seems to have great results for both types 1&2. I haven't tried it yet but I may.

It seems like the media headlines can really stir the pot with unwarranted claims for all kinds of preliminary and narrowly focused studies that prove nothing of the sort.

Comment by Linda G on June 25, 2011 at 6:07am

DiabetesDancer.....be careful!!! 600 calories....good Lord!!

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