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Diabetics with Depression

any diabetics who also suffer from the terrible disease of depression....this is the place where we can all help each other! If you need help now, DIAL 911

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If you need help now, DIAL 911

If you need someone to talk to, check out the Phone Numbers at Suicide Hotlines, United States Hotlines, and International Hotlines


If you are not in immediate danger because of thoughts of suicide, but need someone to talk with about your suicidal feelings, please do not hesitate to call one of the following national suicide prevention lines:

1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433)

1-800-273-TALK (1-800-273-8255)

You may call these suicide prevention numbers from anywhere in the United States, 24 hours a day. People are waiting to help you. Call a suicide prevention number right now if you need to. And always remember that it is never okay to act on your thoughts of suicide. Never. Again, call a suicide prevention number now if you need to.

Never act on your thoughts of suicide.

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Books for Depression

Started by Craig Le Fevre. Last reply by JaninaWalker Feb 5. 3 Replies

I really want to kill myself

Started by mystery rose. Last reply by Linda G Nov 12, 2013. 21 Replies

CAN'T FIND MYSELF

Started by Rashard. Last reply by twiddlemthumbs Nov 5, 2013. 2 Replies

Emotional Exercise.

Started by Judith. Last reply by Coliath Aug 24, 2013. 1 Reply

Difficulty with feeling like a failure...

Started by pastrygurl. Last reply by pastrygurl Aug 22, 2013. 9 Replies

Sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Started by Hannah Hamlin. Last reply by Juice21 Aug 13, 2013. 8 Replies

Sleep Anyone?

Started by Carly. Last reply by rayray May 22, 2013. 1 Reply

My life-----Help

Started by Melissa Brach. Last reply by Buffy Joseph Apr 27, 2013. 7 Replies

i hate this

Started by rayray. Last reply by rayray Apr 24, 2013. 4 Replies

Hey Everyone! I need some help.

Started by Hanbanan. Last reply by rayray Apr 21, 2013. 3 Replies

and 12 steps too

Started by Greg Ascher. Last reply by Baby Peanut Feb 14, 2013. 3 Replies

Untitled

Started by Carly. Last reply by Carly Dec 3, 2012. 2 Replies

Is it wrong to want to start back on Prozac?

Started by PJ. Last reply by Natalie ._c- Nov 17, 2012. 8 Replies

depression comes from low carb diet and/or lack of estrogen?

Started by yumbittersugar. Last reply by yumbittersugar Oct 30, 2012. 8 Replies

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Comment by Ingřid Glass on March 13, 2014 at 7:13pm
I really really really wanted to listen to this live talk but couldn't as I was out this evening (I'm UK so 9-10pm I believe, not as inconvenient as some time zones, but still no good if out & busy). Is there ANY way to listen to these great talks at a later time/date? It's so frustrating knowing what's on and knowing you won't be around to listen :(
Comment by Natalie ._c- on March 13, 2014 at 10:53am

Thanks for the reminder, Rick!! It's important to talk about, and for us, learning how to deal with it is crucial. If your depression leads you to neglect your diabetes, you could end up VERY sick. Not worth it.

The second thing we need is for the medical community to recognize that the needs of diabetics with major depression are somewhat different from those of others. Diabetes management support is crucial, and maybe endos should be involved with the treatment of someone who is experiencing a flare-up. I just went through 2 1/2 months of depression because of the death of my best friend, and my control went to hell and my BGs were floating in the 300-400 range, because I was eating horribly and couldn't bring myself to take my insulin until I was way high up there. I didn't call any doctors, because they wouldn't have done anything. That kind of problem needs to be addressed!

Comment by rick phillips on March 13, 2014 at 10:12am

Please join us today 4:00 PM Eastern, 1:00 PM Pacific for a live interview with Dr. Alan Jacobson on the subject of Diabetes and Depression. For those of us who struggle with the link we should gain some insights into the co-disease process. For those who do not it will be an informative discussion on one of the not so often talked about issues in diabetes management. Dr. Jacobson's profile can be found at:

http://www.tudiabetes.org/events/live-interview-with-dr-alan-jacobs...

Please join us for this very important discussion on March 13, 2014.

rick phillips

Comment by Judith in Portland on February 1, 2014 at 10:51pm

Mmmm...What is the force that keeps the Nightmares bearable? This may be an achievable goal. Trying to figure it out for my self. Can we help each other on this one piece of the puzzle?

Comment by Ingřid Glass on January 12, 2014 at 2:08pm

Thanks, Sarah, for that article.

Comment by Sarah Keech on January 12, 2014 at 1:26pm

TuDiabetes e-mailed me this article today. I think this group would like to read it if it has not been sent to you.
http://www.tudiabetes.org/profiles/blogs/diabetes-depression-and-ch...

Comment by JaninaWalker on January 1, 2014 at 12:17pm

So Judith when you say "Never again" does that mean you noticed muscle pains?
Here is another source of information. This shows 40 results by inputting fibromyalgia into the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine. I have not read them, as you are the person who has more of an insight into your own symptoms and you could therefore see if there are any clues that might help you find the nutrients or supplements that could help you reverse the condition. The concept behind orthomolecular medicine is that by supplying the nutrients in the quantities needed, the body will be able to heal itself and become “right” oriented again which is what ortho means, such as in orthopedic Wikipedia mentions it is derived from the Greek word orthos ("correct", "straight"). So the concept behind orthomolecular medicine is to give the body enough of the right, correct, needed molecules and healing can take place. It does take a LOT of study because nothing is simple.

Comment by Judith in Portland on December 30, 2013 at 11:14am

Janina--I was on a statin for 6 months in 2006. Never again.

Comment by JaninaWalker on December 30, 2013 at 8:40am

Judith is it possible that your doctor started you on a statin cholesterol lowering drug a couple of years prior to 2007 as statins can be a causal factor for diabetes and also aches and misery with muscles, hence the diagnosis of fibromyalgia. Dr Mercola's articles on the effects of statins points out that the muscle pain is more severe for those who are active and so when you were really actively dancing you felt the signs of pain as the body uses cholesterol to regenerate cell walls in muscles. So both the diabetes and the fibromyalgia could be caused by a statin.

Natalie you think you have no side effects in the long time use of statins, but I suspect you started one of the statins even before you became diabetic. But even if you started just after it can still contribute to the worsening of diabetes. Notice that hormones are created out of cholesterol and to limit cholesterol’s availability means the body still uses what it does make to patch damage and handle tasks on a first come first served basis so likely what continues on is the heart disease plaque build-up and what gets short changed is the hormone production and hence diabetes results. You might think that side effects are more distinctly noticeable than that, but diabetes is a serious side effect of being unable to make enough insulin because there is too little cholesterol available as it is being used so rapidly on all the other tasks.

Asking a doctor whether a statin can cause these things won’t help as my own GP tells me that doctors are very law suit aware and will continually deny responsibility and say NO. We all know that a doctor using generally accepted strategies has the industry behind them, so law suits rarely will work. But here is currently a class action law suit for middle aged woman who were on Lipitor and became diabetic. You can see the TV commercials about it. Since Lipitor was the most widely prescribed at one time, chances are high that you are a victim of conventional medicine. I would say the other statins would have a similar effect as they do the same thing, but the law suit is just restricted to makers of Lipitor as there is study data to back up the law suit.

Comment by Natalie ._c- on December 27, 2013 at 11:53am

Hey, Judith, at least you have the memory. Bask in it. Love the music, and see the dance behind your eyelids. What a wonderful memory to have!

The fibromyalgia and joint problems must be hard to live with, and diabetes doesn't help, but I think all of us need to continue to grow emotionally, and to learn to accept what life hands us when we can't change it. That's been my battle for a LONG time, and I'm sort of guessing it's everyone's battle. And if having those lovely memories can help, that's great -- some of us have far more ugly memories than pleasant ones. For me, it's trying to get the ugly memories out of my mind, because THEY are the ones that come charging into my brain if I give them half a chance. Or sometimes even a quarter of a chance.

So keep up the good work, and fight the good fight, and love that music! :-) <3

 

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