Dr. Bernstein Diabetes Solution Group

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Dr. Bernstein Diabetes Solution Group

This is a group for anyone that is using Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution in full or in part (using a very low carb diet of around 30g/day) to manage their diabetes.

Members: 471
Latest Activity: on Thursday

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what is your reaction this respected professor's take on the bernstein method?

Started by v/prediabetic. Last reply by roguediabetic on Thursday. 7 Replies

Dr. De Vany said: "...no one can hit those numbers (ie the optimal numbers Dr. Bernstein recommends in his book) and you should not run your life by them. People who live by the numbers are miserable…Continue

Tips for a Dr. Bernstein diet newbie?

Started by KW. Last reply by Dee Dee Dec 10. 13 Replies

Hello everyone!I was super excited to find this group! I'm a Type 1, diagnosed just a couple years ago at age 22. I have been trying to eat low-carb for about a year, on and off, both to keep my…Continue

BG readings a bit high

Started by David Spector. Last reply by David Spector Oct 22. 13 Replies

I'm new here, recommended to this group specifically. My original doctor was Lowell Gerber, a Maine cardiologist who recommended ketosis to me.I'm following a modified Atkins diet, about 20 mg net…Continue

Cheaper glucose strips?

Started by type1VT. Last reply by David Spector Oct 22. 32 Replies

I went to the pharmacy today to pick up a new prescription of glucose strips to last me through the next few months, and I kid you not, based on my 7-10 times of taking blood sugars per day, the bill…Continue

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Comment by Natalie ._c- on April 11, 2012 at 1:29pm

Muleman, I can only speak for the US, but medical scientific caution, and reluctance to treat people who may not actually need it, because of the impact on their lives. Concern for the bottom line is a HUGE issue here, and it better not come from doctors' or industry pockets. Lack of DOCUMENTED evidence for the efficacy of low-carb way of life. (Bernstein's greatest mistake), and belief that people cannot follow it anyway. Political support for one way over another because of intense lobbying. Govt. meddling in medical affairs (intended to be protective and pro-active, but not always so). Old-timers protecting their turf. Did I give you the impression that it's really complex????

Comment by Trudy on April 11, 2012 at 11:41am

It would truly be nice if we could maintain 85 all the time, but it's not always that easy. Thyroid problems, inactivity, all sort of thing get in the way. And then there are those nasty hypos. I think each of us needs to do the best we can given the circumstances at any given time. I do admire both of you, my friends Hanna and muleman!

Comment by muleman on April 11, 2012 at 11:28am

Great Info, Hana. But, oh how can the medical professions be so chaotic in their views?
I was thinking I would get better treatment for my T2 in England. Obviously not!
Everyone in the medical profession here I have spoken to tell me that 120 on my meter is fine and 125 is acceptable. But that is at the top end of everything you have been told? So who is running the asylum?

Comment by Hana Rous on April 11, 2012 at 6:06am

Janina
All meter used in Britain have been Plasma meters for some time.
Nevertheless, Sureely the ONLY sane TARGET is NORMAL blood glucose. Pity so few medics know what that is. On a survey, a couple of years ago, I asked a few "front-liners" including a triage nurse, what normal glucose is. All of them quoted the diabetes UK figures of 4 - 7 [72 - 126] Bernstein gives 4.7 [85] as the normal. My meter leaflet gives a figure of around 5[90]. As I've written before, I don't expect everyone to hit the target all the time, but aiming for it is sensible. I know many diabetics who happily aim for "up tp 7" [126]. Some of these are motivated people who would aim for 5 [90] if they knew to.

Comment by Hana Rous on April 11, 2012 at 5:44am

Natalie
Here in Britain with the NHS, Stable T2s are discouraged from self testing. the real reason is cost, butpatients are told that testing leads to depression and anxiety and sore fingers. I pay for my own supplies [out of my ungenerous pension] and have trouble getting any strips prescribed, even with new driving regs which say I should test before any drive and every 2 hours on a long journey. I'm also supposed to cqarry glucose in the car. Since I use mainly diet plus 2 x 500mg Metformin per day, I'm not really subject to hypos and I suppose the regs probably don't apply to me, but I'd not like to have to contest it in a court. i have a pack of glucose in the car, but certainly don't test every time I drive. I don't have enough strips for that. My way round the probem is to WALK locally and use the bus for medium journeys. Fortunately, we have an excellent public transport service here in Reading.

Comment by JaninaWalker on April 10, 2012 at 7:28pm

Here is the most succinct explanation
http://www.joslin.org/info/plasma_glucose_meters_and_whole_blood_me...
So the old range we were given was 80-120 and now it is 90-130, but I am saying it is not making things easier for us, but just more accurate. They didn't raise the range so it could be easier to achieve.

Comment by Natalie ._c- on April 10, 2012 at 6:49pm

Janina, meters used to read in whole blood numbers, which are lower than plasma numbers. So they added in an algorithm to make meters read as if it were plasma to make it easier to compare lab readings to meter readings. That makes it easier to check your meter against the lab reading to make sure your meter is functioning adequately. Is there any other reason that concerns you that I'm not aware of?

Comment by JaninaWalker on April 10, 2012 at 4:55pm

Put the below into a search engine and you will see why they raised the hoped for range.....it was not to make things easier. Try this in google.....
whole blood vs plasma glucose levels

Comment by BadMoonT2 on April 10, 2012 at 11:05am

Re targets: it's a cruel joke to set targets higher just so patients can reach them and then have them develop complications because the targets are too high. Just give it to me straight doc I'm an adult after all.

Comment by muleman on April 10, 2012 at 10:46am

You know. Your all right. I just read all these and your all right! Badmoon makes a great (sadly) case.
I seriously thought of printing an A4 sheet in Spanish I would hang on a card around my neck when visiting doctors. It would state:.
"I am neither stupid, expendable or invisible or a statistic. I can read, and I can surf the Internet! So I have accessed to writings of the greatest medicals minds in the world. I know you could if you cared enough; stop me going blind, or losing one or more of my feet and legs. You could stop my daily pain and the instant risk of my death from heart failure due over consumption of miss prescribed non compatible medicines. You could get me back to a normal life by providing the therapies at your disposal. You could refer me to a wide assortment of specialists. But then you don't expect me to survive anyway do you!
Albert Vickers,2012 Dying with the help of to many Physicians.

 

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