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Freestyle navigator Let's complain

Started by John H. Last reply by Franco Dec 15, 2013. 41 Replies

Using on Abdomen

Started by Kristen. Last reply by Todd May 6, 2011. 3 Replies

completely off!

Started by DBolding. Last reply by Franco Apr 25, 2011. 9 Replies

anyone still using a navigator??

Started by Stacey Nagel. Last reply by Tuut Jan 24, 2011. 32 Replies

Navigator Discontinued?

Started by Jeremy and Anne. Last reply by Jess Sep 23, 2010. 29 Replies

Anyone in the US flown wearing their Nav?

Started by fgiraffe. Last reply by Baby Tee Jul 3, 2010. 9 Replies

Upgrade

Started by Donald. Last reply by Bradford Jun 21, 2010. 10 Replies

CoPilot Software and Mac

Started by Kim Black. Last reply by tschafer47 Jun 20, 2010. 7 Replies

The sensor coming off...

Started by Amanda Ferraro. Last reply by Baby Tee Jun 9, 2010. 7 Replies

Interested in the Freestyle CGM. So i joined.

Started by Diagnosis. Last reply by Joshua Marshall May 14, 2010. 7 Replies

Extending Sensor Life

Started by Baby Tee. Last reply by Bradford Apr 16, 2010. 7 Replies

Bagrat Mamasakhlisi

Started by Bagrat Mamasakhlisi Apr 15, 2010. 0 Replies

OmniPod users...

Started by Sami. Last reply by Sami Apr 9, 2010. 4 Replies

Kids & itching sites

Started by Mark. Last reply by Jeremy and Anne Apr 9, 2010. 1 Reply

Navigator sensor price

Started by Franco. Last reply by Franco Apr 1, 2010. 12 Replies

Out of Pocket Cost for Navigator

Started by Baby Tee. Last reply by Franco Mar 31, 2010. 7 Replies

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Comment by MelissaBL on September 1, 2011 at 5:15pm
Colleen, I have a broken alignment pin, too. I've still been able to use my transmitter for the last year and a half, but it loosens (causing sensor errors) and/or falls off and I've been lucky to find it in my clothes each time. I was a little peeved today when I was talking to Abbott on the phone because they've known about my alignment pin issue for all that time and have had me on the backorder list, but the rep today had the gall to question whether I broke the alignment pin due to something I did with the product.
Comment by tedlevy on September 1, 2011 at 5:14pm
Maybe so but I don't believe that about the rights. It doesn't make sense to me. I can't imagine with all their lawyers they would by the product and somehow forget to buy the distribution rights in the US. And if so, why isn't the company that did buy them distributing them? And if that's what's stopping them, then why didn't they just buy the rights they didn't have from whoever had them? Not making sense.

I find it more credible that this product was somehow the victim of a corporate strategy kerfluffel; somebody thought there was a market for it and somebody didn't; the right resources were not in the right place, whatever.

What is unforgiveable is the dithering and Hamlet-ing ("to be or not to be...") that went on for an unbelievable two years while they pretended they were going to resurrect this product.

Of course there aren't many people using it now. Abbott has been telling them for two years to send the product back for a refund and they haven't been making replacements available. I just can't imagine once they decided to buy off the users why they didn't just discontinue the product at that time. I just feel like they've been playing with my life.
Comment by Colleen on September 1, 2011 at 5:07pm
Had a unit from 9/09-2/10 before it broke but the information I gained in those five months changed my life for the better. After waiting over a year for a replacement, I finally took the buyout deal and started looking for a unit in Europe. A month ago I was able to get one (don't ask how) and was happily using it (the one hour calibration is a dream). Unfortunately after two weeks the alignment pin loosened and caused sensor errors so I had to request a replacement transmitter which I am picking up next week. I was able to get the sensors in the US via my insurance company (yes, they work with the European unit) and now this. I am so sad because now I am stuck with a new unit. On the plus side, I paid for the system but used the buyout money to get it.
Comment by marti w on September 1, 2011 at 4:29pm
they just don't have the US rights. the pharma company i work for had to hand over rights to one of our products in india. in the EU we distribute a product we helped develop but another pharma company has the US distribution rights, etc.
licensing and distribution rights aren't equal across international borders and governments have a lot of influence on which companies get the rights to do things
Comment by Donald on September 1, 2011 at 4:22pm
MelissaBL if they didn't have the rights to it then how can they be producing it in 7 other countries
Comment by Kelly WPA on September 1, 2011 at 4:12pm
Donald, I got my Navigator late 2009 and right around when I bought it, the announcement came out about the 1 hour one. There were posts going around that included the links to the FDA site with that approval. So yes, I believe it.
Comment by Donald on September 1, 2011 at 4:08pm
Abbott didn't ever launch the one-hour system in the US though it was approved in late 2009. from the article below. can you believe this
Comment by Donald on September 1, 2011 at 4:06pm
On August 31, Abbott Diabetes Care announced that it will permanently discontinue the FreeStyle Navigator continuous glucose monitoring (CGM) system in the United States. This disappointing news comes on the heels of a supply interruption that has existed since early 2010. Going forward, Navigator will continue to be used in research studies (welcome news for the artificial pancreas) and will also continue to be available in its "next generation" version (one-hour rather than ten-hour warmup time) in Europe and Israel. Based on our discussions with Abbott, we believe the company is working on a 'next-next' generation CGM system in the US. From a commercial perspective, we think it was not worth it for the company to continue to support this product with so few people on it - Abbott didn't ever launch the one-hour system in the US though it was approved in late 2009. The best-case scenario for US patients would be for Abbott to invest in future CGM systems and effectively leapfrog the approved-but-never-launched the Navigator with one-hour calibration. A fairly small number of patients used the ten-hour calibration version, so we do understand it was a lot of investment for few patients. As long as the company does continue to invest in CGM, we will be very happy for patients, though we do feel sorry for those using Navigator who counted on it - among them, some notable diabetes scientists and researchers and their children. More focus on future innovation will be great to see. The worst case scenario for patients would be if Abbott discontinues CGM internationally in the next year-plus. We hope very much not to see this, as some incredible scientists and researchers are in-house at Abbott at work on this technology. ­--AB/KC This is from DIA Tribe
Comment by MelissaBL on September 1, 2011 at 3:56pm
There's little we can fuss about, Donald. Abbott can't produce something they didn't buy the rights to produce. Navigator makes up less than 1% of their diabetes sales and Diabetes makes up less than 6% of Abbott's product sales. It doesn't really make business sense for them to stress over this decision.
Comment by Kelly WPA on September 1, 2011 at 3:46pm
I blame Abbott also. They have never been honest about what was going on.
 

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