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Permalink Reply by Dan on October 7, 2010 at 4:30pm

Are you talking about actually managing the pump? If so, then I don't believe your current phone decision will make any difference as having phone pump controllers will need to be approved by the FDA and AFAIK there is only 1 510K application in the US for such a device (the Jewel one and that is on Android) and it was only recently filed. The FDA has recently increased scrutiny of infusion devices, so in addition to the normal lengthy approval process we'll have this to deal with as well.

Now, if you're talking about (not) supporting evil monopolists masquerading as hipsters, then we can have a discussion! :)

Permalink Reply by Felix on October 7, 2010 at 4:41pm

Hi Dan

thanks for comments. I've been reading through the hacking discussion and I feel it will only be a matter of time before interactions between phones and pumps can be engineered to satisfy the FDA's requirements. That may be a little optimistic however as I don't know much about the process of getting clearance. If there remains unsolvable issues on the interaction between the two devices I think that the phone may still act solely as a reporting unit for a pumps data

Permalink Reply by Dan on October 7, 2010 at 7:07pm

Felix,

Yeah, the tech is there today. The issues are the reliability of consumer grade devices vs medical devices. Can you imagine the liability issues if someone hacked you bluetooth connection and bolused all the remaining insulin to you? Or if it got a "Force Close" during the night messing up your basal? Those situations are the kinds of things any manufacturer will have to satisfy the FDA on. I'm with you though - I want to be able to carry 1 device as opposed to the suitcase-full it feels like I do now!

Permalink Reply by SF Pete on October 7, 2010 at 8:36pm

No joke. I don't have enough pockets for all the gadgets I need to tote.

Permalink Reply by Felix on October 9, 2010 at 4:27pm

HI SF pete

Thanks for comment. Wheres your vote going on the choice. Iphone or android ?

Permalink Reply by SF Pete on October 9, 2010 at 6:38pm

I have the HTC Incredible, so I'm going to say Android. It's powerful tool.

Permalink Reply by Ron Doyle on October 11, 2010 at 9:47am

I hear you there, but I found that the ScottEVests were the solution for me. I have the beige and black ones now. Also has a great pocket for iPod with the ability to "hide" your earbud wires.

Permalink Reply by Felix on October 9, 2010 at 4:26pm

Hi Dan

I think that this issues of hacking will not be to bad to overcome as long as inbuilt safety limits are set up that are not affected by any communications. In fact I'm fairly sure if you integrate the devices with external communications centres I'm sure you could reduce the number of false bolus / basal doses being administered. So where's your vote going ? I-phone or Android ?

Permalink Reply by Dan on October 9, 2010 at 6:12pm

I was mainly using that as an argument of the things that will have to be addressed for the FDA to approve anything (though one would be well advised to remember how many "unbreakable" protocols are easily broken as time marches on). Trust me, I *want* this as soon as possible, but when the government and lawyers get involved... well, I tend to get pessimistic.

Android for sure. Right now I'm rocking an Evo 4G and wishing I could use it to control my Omnipod. :)

Permalink Reply by Felix on October 12, 2010 at 5:14pm

Please also see attached link http://www.jewelpump.com. It does appear that this pump is being managed via an HTC Android device. Not sure if this is real life yet but if a monitor was bulit into the device in the same way as the ibgstar iphone (see below) then essentially thats all you need for single device managment ?

Permalink Reply by Felix on October 12, 2010 at 4:48pm

Hi Dan.

What if the app on the phone just acted as a reporting unit that could receive data from the pump / CMD but had no ability to adjust the bolus / basel. Would this be an alternative that would have a better chance of clearance from the drugs boards etc....?

Permalink Reply by Felix on October 12, 2010 at 5:04pm

Hi dan see this link curtosy of Jesse carr's posting. http://ibgstar.com/web/ibgstar

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