Diabetes applications for Windows Mobile

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Permalink Reply by Kris Gainsforth on December 22, 2008 at 7:41am

There's not too much out there for WinMob or BlackBerry right now. Since I work for AT&T and get all the new toys (yeah, right), I've been trying to find one that works on WinMob. I've seen some good diet programs, but nothing that really works well.

I'm convinced that making a web based mgmt program (like Sugar Stats) but more social networking oriented (integration with Ning, Twitter, Jaiku, laconica, etc) would be the way to go first, then make custom front ends for Windows Mobile. Live Mesh looks promising as a way to do this! I want to make my software Open Source so anyone can take and make it their own. I just don't like the way SugarStats.com charges for food/exer tracking, so I'm going to make my own that anyone can install on a server.

For now though, I just use Excel Mobile to track times and events (food, meds, exercise, stress, sleep, etc.)

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Permalink Reply by Mommy and the monkeys on December 22, 2008 at 7:53am

I currently use Co-pilot from Abbot to monitor my blood sugar I just checked under add / remove programs on my desktop and it uses only 24 meg - maybe possibly installing it on my 16g micro sd card? or will windows mobile not recognize it?

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Permalink Reply by AndyRozman on December 22, 2008 at 8:12am

Mhm. If your application is for PC, it won't work on Windows Mobile, you would need special version of your software to be able to run it on Mobiles... It is totally different architecture.... For each mobile (PocketPC, Palm) you need different version.

Andy

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Permalink Reply by JerryInPDX on February 11, 2009 at 8:59am

I hear you, im a blackberry user as well. I was thinking of writing my own web app, like sugarstats, but free :) All the data seems to be out there, you can DL the USDA DB, there are exercise databases out there, lots of free plotting stuff on SF... Id be interested in hearing more abut your progress and being part of the dev team if you go that route :)

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Permalink Reply by AndyRozman on February 11, 2009 at 11:41am

Hi !

Do you have any links for excercise databases? We will be adding activity manager to our application (GGC) and are currently looking for places to find such things...

Andy

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Permalink Reply by AndyRozman on December 22, 2008 at 8:03am

Hi !

You could try SiDiary application. It works on PC and on several mobile devices, including PocketPCs. Version 5 for PC looks little weird, but version 6 looks much better... Try it out http://www.sidiary.org/ it has support for many meters and also some pumps...

Andy

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Permalink Reply by Mommy and the monkeys on December 22, 2008 at 8:19am

I guess now I need to see if SI Diary is going to work with my 722 pump

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Permalink Reply by AndyRozman on December 22, 2008 at 8:53am

Mhm. I think not... They have two pumps supported (I think): Deltec and Roche/Tron... Minimed is beeing very uncooperative....

I am developing one other diabetes management software GGC, which is open source (http://ggc.sourceforge.net), and I had trouble getting any help from them (or most of other companies producing diabetes hardware: meters, pumps, cgms), so only way is to reverse ingeneer connections with devices, but it's long and painful process and you have to have devices to do this... You can try it out, but it works just on PCs (almost any of them), I am working on application that will also work on PocketPC, but it will be just simple thing, which will be used, when you don't have "real" version handy...

Andy

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Permalink Reply by Mommy and the monkeys on December 22, 2008 at 9:19am

do you just need access to the program that was distributed with the pump and meter? I know you can download them online.

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Permalink Reply by AndyRozman on December 22, 2008 at 10:51am

Nope... Software you download, can just use data they get from devices, but I have no access to that data from my software. What I need is protocol (e.g. language with which device can communicate with PC), this is all that any developer needs to add support for some device in his/hers software. Most of companies keep this data for themselves, which makes sense if you have devices, which are not used by a lot of people... but in case of medical devices, used by a lot of people this should be open, so that devices could be used by more software/more poeple.

You probably ask what would be idea be of more software, if you already have 1 that works... It's all about manipulation of data, for example some application can do what others can't... We are usually limited with applications that support devices we have and in most cases we are "forced" to use some software, so that we can get and see the data, but most of this applications are not so good, they are made by people who don't have diabetes and therefore don't understand what we need... GGC and SiDiary are both made by diabetics and therefore support a lot of stuff others doesn't...

In some cases we add support by "spying" on communication between PC and device, and then using that information, sometimes applications help us by creating export files, which we can import (I will do this with GGC and Minimed pumps, when I add support for it), or sometime we can connect to original software or at least with database in it...

Andy

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Permalink Reply by Mommy and the monkeys on December 22, 2008 at 10:56am

I have the minimed software and the copilot software that was from Abbot, would those help you in any way?

as linux user, I prefer open source anyway! :)

I am forced to use windows for my diabetes purposes though :(

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Permalink Reply by AndyRozman on December 22, 2008 at 12:02pm

No. When using 1st method... spying, you have to have original software and device, and then you do commands in software (forexample get pump data) and you listen with special software to se what PC is saying to device and what device respond with. It would be possible for you to do this for me and send me this report, but in most cases this is not enough... you have tohave a real device to test on it... If everything goes right I will have pump by february (loaned for now) and I will do some support for Minimed then, only problem is that base framework for pumps is still not finished, so it will take time...
As for Abbot, I will get some meter devices from my friend and then I will try to add support for it to GGC, but then again it will take time... New version 0.4 is comming out in January, without support for your devices... I am mostly working alone on this project (eventhough its open source), so it takes time...

Andy

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