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Hypothyroid Diabetics

A group for Diabetics of all types, who also have Hypothyroidism, seeking knowledge, support, and empowerment.

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Hypothyroidism... The silent illness

Much like Diabetes, Hypothyroidism can be a silent illness. The symptoms for both can be very similar, and often, easy to shrug off as some other circumstance. Maybe we're just getting lazier about our routines, maybe we're not drinking enough water, or we need to use more moisturizer, etc. If you feel you may have a thyroid imbalance, please do not hesitate to contact your GP or Endo. If you have a story of when you were diagnosed, feel free to share.

Did you know that January is Thyroid Awareness Month?

Past Awareness Campaigns, and 10 Facts Your Doctor Doesn't to Tell You.

Thyroid Disease...
  • Affects at least 30 million Americans -- some experts say 59 million!
  • Is easily -- and frequently -- misdiagnosed as depression
  • Is at least 7 times more likely to affect women
  • Can be the actual cause of weight gain/difficulty losing weight, fatigue, depression, hair loss, and high cholesterol in some people
  • Is most often due to autoimmune disease
  • In women, can cause infertility, low sex drive, miscarriage, irregular menstrual periods, breastfeeding problems, and difficult menopause
  • Is NOT typically tested for as part of regular blood work in an annual physical
  • Is often overlooked, misdiagnosed, or insufficiently/incorrectly treated by physicians
An in-depth report on Hypothyroidism

Perchlorate and Hypothyroidism -- A *MUST* read

About.Com's Thyroid Disease Blog

Diabetes Forum

Hashimoto's and fluctuating BGs 8 weeks postpartum

Started by Nici. Last reply by bjm2363 on Monday. 1 Reply

Hi all,I have had Type one for 32 years and Hashimoto's for 23 years. I am eight weeks postpartum and breastfeeding and have been having problems with both my thyroid levels and my BGs.My OB tested…Continue

Time interval on increasing dose

Started by dishers Aug 30. 0 Replies

I got a message (answering machine) from my doctor stating that my thyroid results showed thyroid was to low and I have to increase my dose, I have just started on Synthroid. started with 0.025 then…Continue

is Eltroxin the same as sythroid?

Started by dishers Aug 27. 0 Replies

Hi all, so i was on sythroid 0.025 and now they have put me on eltroxin 0.05mg, is there a difference in synthroid vs eltroxin? and what should I be looking out for. they mentioned heart rate but my…Continue

Books?

Started by dishers. Last reply by dishers Aug 25. 4 Replies

Hi all new to this group was wondering if you had any recommendations for good books or online sites for a newbie diagnosed. And of course will be learning from here the most. I don't know anything…Continue

Armour Thyroid VS Synthroid Medication

Started by abruner. Last reply by Gayle Kodimer Mckenna Jul 23. 3 Replies

Has anyone tried Armour Thyroid over the Synthroid? I was talking to a buddy of mine who was pre-diabetic, high blood pressure and borderline high cholesterol. He talked to a holistic Dr who started…Continue

T3 A Medication that could change your life

Started by Diabetes to Go. Last reply by Diabetes to Go Apr 7. 2 Replies

Hi Everyone,I'm glad to see discussion about T3 and to hear other PWDs have had their endo prescribe T3 or T4 and T3 formulations.T3 has literally given me my life back and I want to share that with…Continue

How often has your dosage increased? Having severe symptoms of low thyroid but tests have been "perfect"

Started by Kelly. Last reply by Diabetes to Go Mar 31. 6 Replies

How often has your dosage increased? I've been having severe symptoms of low thyroid for more than a year and a half, but tests have been "perfect" according to my Endo and family doctor.I was…Continue

Losing Weight w/ T1 & Hypothyroidism

Started by Britt Willock. Last reply by Maisie's Mom Mar 1. 5 Replies

Hey everyone,I've been T1 for about 5.5 years now and was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism a little over a year ago. I gained about 10-15 pounds from Hypothyroidism before I was diagnosed and have been…Continue

thyroid ugh

Started by krystal Jul 24, 2013. 0 Replies

I agree thyroid sucks mine was killed in 97 with pill went while without meds for it jan started back up currently got raised 2mcg levothroxine my level was 10 an should be 3 or 4

Interpreting blood results when on low carb regiment

Started by Bill. Last reply by Bill Jun 5, 2013. 2 Replies

I have been following the Bernstein low carb solution for the past 3.5 months. My A1C in January was at a record high of 8.2. I had to take control and do something about it so I read the Bernstein…Continue

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Comment by The Diabetic Welfare Queen on March 3, 2010 at 7:56am
That's wonderful, Erika! Good to hear there's other alternatives, in case there's no more Armour manufactured... there's a shortage of it going on, right now, apparently.
Comment by The Diabetic Welfare Queen on March 3, 2010 at 6:09am
That's wonderful, Saya! :) Are they gonna adjust your meds some more?
Comment by Asma on March 3, 2010 at 4:17am
hey Lizmari
just so your group,by the way,my test results cme back,they look better :)
Comment by The Diabetic Welfare Queen on March 2, 2010 at 2:23pm
I would think if you have a good Endocrinologist for your Diabetes management, that he would also be okay for your other Endocrine concerns (Pituitary/Adrenal/Thyroid)... But I could be wrong... some of these doctors are not as knowledgeable as others in different areas within their field. Hopefully another member will have a good place to point you to... I found this great, in-depth link on Pituitary issues, and it just seems like it would be an infinite amount of tests based on whatever the symptoms or concerns are... http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/pituitarydisorders.html. Similar for Adrenal problems.... http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/adrenalglanddisorders.html, and more specifically for Addison's Disease (or Adrenal Insufficiency) -- http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/addisonsdisease.html. This Thyroid and Endocrinology clinic looked promising in my search: http://www.austinthyroid.com/.
Comment by Sp!tf!re on March 2, 2010 at 1:52pm
Need help! Does anyone here know of a good doctor in/near Austin or Lubbock TX? One who can also deal with pituitary and adrenal problems or at least know the tests needed? need to find one asap! thanks
Comment by Patti Burns on February 15, 2010 at 1:17am
Mines caused my hearing loss at birth. Didn't get diagnoised till I was about 24 or 25 with hypothyroidism. Barely, turning 37 when I was diagnoised with diabetes t2.
Comment by The Diabetic Welfare Queen on January 30, 2010 at 6:21pm
Though I have not read any study firsthand, myself, the link I posted below has some extensive references in its footnotes, including one that refers to treating women who develop thyroiditis postpartum (Stagnaro-Green A. Recognizing, understanding, and treating postpartum thyroiditis. Endocrinol Metab Clin North Am 2000: 29(2):417-30. ), like the subject in the case scenario. They suggest the antibodies bind up any hormones the patient may have, and may interfere with every thyroid test, including the TSH. There are Endocrinologists that do not adhere to the philosophy of giving hormone replacement therapy to person's with just antibodies, but many will do so... as symptoms are symptoms, and often times, a low dose does wonders for many people, especially if they have all the telltale signs of vitamin deficiencies, and other hormonal imbalances that depend on the T3 and T4.
Comment by Paul Patten on January 30, 2010 at 5:49pm
I had not realized that the thyroid antibodies could interfere with the interpretation of TSH. Are there any observational evidence in studies of thyroid function that substantiate this?
Comment by Will on January 30, 2010 at 2:39pm
Wow! What a great help!
Comment by The Diabetic Welfare Queen on January 30, 2010 at 11:31am
Well, that is a very good question, Will... :) Since the Thyroid is a master gland of the body, the best way to assess how it functions is by having a 'holistic' approach toward it: ie, by checking all the variables that it will affect. The Thyroid's function is taking all the iodine that is found in our bodies, and converting it into T3 and T4 hormones, which in turn, regulate the body's metabolism. Since the Pituitary glad is over the Thyroid gland, when the Thyroid gland is not making enough of these hormones, the Pituitary will start producing raised levels of the TSH hormone (which you already know of.)

While it is important to test for TSH levels, there are situations in which it is NOT enough to just test for this hormone... and here's why:

1.) T3 in itself, is 3 times more powerful than T4. However, T3 is made from a conversion of T4. Oftentimes, folks may not covert T4 into T3 very well, experience very low levels of T3, or a situation called "Reverse T3" in which the Thyroid makes some T3, but it is of a kind that cannot be absorbed by the body. For these folks, it is necessary to do a T3 and Reverse T3 exam, and there will be an additional hormone replacement pill to take, as Synthroid and Levothyroxine only cover T4.
2.) If your TSH level is on the high side, but not over the range limits, a T4 test can show if the Thyroid is already starting to struggle to produce this hormone, and perhaps catch it early.
3.)In some cases, the Pituitary gland will have failed -- and if it has failed, it can no longer generate TSH levels to try to tell the Thyroid gland to produce more hormone. In this case, a TSH test would always indicate low -- so you would only know by doing a T3 and T4 test, to see if those are low.
4.)Autoimmune Hypothyroidism, such as Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, can only be detected by testing the levels of thyroid antibodies in the bloodstream. Any amount of antibody in the bloodstream will throw any TSH test off, and make it nearly impossible to give the appropriate dosage of medication. For these people, it is necessary to test for Thyroid Antibodies, T3, Reverse T3, T4, and a battery of tests to determine vitamin and mineral absorption. Some people are deficient of essential fatty acids or other vitamins, limiting thyroid hormone’s ability to get into the brain or other cells to have its full effect. Levels such as blood pressure, and cholesterol, should also be checked.

So, to give you the short version... a holistic Thyroid checkup should include: TSH, T3, Reverse T3, T4, Thyroid Antibodies, a check for vitamin and/or mineral deficiencies, cholesterol levels, and blood pressure levels.

You can find a case scenario describing these treatments and why they are done at: http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/woliner.htm.
 

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