We are seriously experienced diabetics here, no longer "babies"... but what exactly have we become in terms of our diabetes?

In the generic, numbers do not phase me even remotely anymore, whatever they might be. Whether 23 or 569 I simply do not give a crap. They are solely numbers I deal with the "pretty flames" in front of me and do tactical ~damage control~ afterwards.

Does that make me emotionally calloused, horribly jaded, or merely mentally damaged, spiritually broken? Or am I just a diabetic with lots of nasty expereince? ie clinically detached, "vulcan" in our approach? A beginner, a "white coat", a Tyoe-A person would have a knipshin, suffer appaplexy, a stroke whatever the particular-specific given issue might be

I believe many of us with true experience are not so easily "thrown". What has the experience you've paid for in blood, tears and emotional scars done to your perceptions re: "things diabetic" ? In truth can you be paniced anymore? Or does experience guarantee degrees of "vulcan" dispassion?

What do you think?

Tags: clinical, clinical-dispassion, detachment, diabetes, diabetes-experience, dispassion, experience, perception, self-perception, vulcan

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That would certainly be true.
Hello Jim:

As always thank you for taking part...

Ugggh, (::( that kind of thing is what I call "dia-cide"; a torturously slow, slow form of suicide (small s). Whereas openly not taking stuff, or blindly shooting for days, months, years... that needs to be interfeared with... IMHO.

But bad guesstmating the chicken with prawns for dinner, or laying in bed and remembering we forgot to cover/shoot ... done that once or twice. To me that kind of stuation can be relative...

Have you encountered many experienced folks 10+ years who went that horrible route you describe?
Stuart
I have been diabetic for 39 years. I do to a large degree agree with you. Blood sugars of 500 make me a bit nervous, I adjust food and insulin, but would never consider calling my doctor or anything. Same with the lows. I do understand what you are saying about current treatment techniques. A friend of a friend had a son who's pump stopped working and his blood sugar got to 350. The only reason she did not take him to the hospital was because she had medical training. My morning sugars are 300 a lot--they just are. You are probably right on the "vulcan" dispassion. Over the years, we have learned what we can and cannot control and what we will and will not control. I have been very surprised by the number of persons on here with pumps and omnipods, testing 10 times a day. I'm a person who documents everything, writes down all my readings, etc, but testing over 5 or 6 times a day is rare. However, my life works this way and I guess that what counts. I've tried doing the numbers, etc and end up in much worse shape. In reality, we do what we can and let everything go by. Lest we end up crazy about it. It's one of the reasons I like this forum. We are not all perfect diabetics who match the book model. Actually, I never matched any book model, so the diabetes not matching should be no surprise!
Hello Nearing40years

Thank you for contributing!

In truth, I fear I fit the pure definition of a "skeptic"; one who does not accept the commonly held belief(s), I wish I understood better my feelings, ~contempt~ I suppose? (Searching for the correct vocabulary to describe it... have not nearly succeeded as yet?)

I believe strongly there is a serious component entirely absent re: long term diabetes self-management which has not been written, articulated yet re: emotional "control" ?
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Let's write a chapter or two see if we can pin this down a bit more ; ) perhaps?
Stuart
Actually, I fit the true "skeptic" definition also. I question everything, to the point of annoying those who considered themselves to be skeptics!
I too have come to believe that tight control is a perhaps a noble idea, but none-the-less not always achievable by all. Over the years, I did not and could not fit the mold. The thing that made me remain in what many would call "denial" was watching the diabetics I knew try so hard to meet the blood sugar goals and end up dying from low blood sugar. Now diabetics are told to test before driving (which I don't) and more often because of the more frequent lows.
I'm okay. If my self-assessment were that far off, I doubt that I would be okay, at least not for this long. I live with this, my doctor does not I'm the first hand observer in the "experiment" that controlling diabetes is..
With time a person learns that authorities are not all correct, not every one matches the med school textbooks and that you have to do what you feel is best for you. It's not necessarily rebellion or denial. Sometimes it's just reality.
I was reading some of the other forums today and I have to say I am shocked at what diabetes has become. For a long time, people tried to talk me into a pump because "it's just like your own pancreas". But my own pancreas never required me to test 10 times a day, adjust insulin doses constantly, etc. And my own pancreas allowed me to eat food, Seriously, diabetics now eat fish and vegetables and never eat potatos, bread, rice???? This is what was done before there was insulin. How do you live for a number on a test (glucose or A1c) and follow a diet that excludes virtually all carbs? If this is what being diabetic means, I need to stay away from this stuff. This depresses me.....not being diabetic.

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