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LADA Diabetics

Do you have Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults? Need support in having this type of Diabetes. Do not understand much about it? Join us as we discuss, support and learn more about LADA!

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have to hang up my shoes !

Started by Joe Dennis. Last reply by Joe Dennis 20 hours ago. 7 Replies

Marshall protocol

Started by lh378. Last reply by Joe Dennis Oct 5. 3 Replies

breakfast ideas

Started by ticky. Last reply by Mohanned Sep 19. 9 Replies

LADA myths

Started by Melitta. Last reply by janetiscute Sep 19. 12 Replies

Tired of water

Started by Hummingbird. Last reply by Joe Dennis Aug 23. 11 Replies

Carb counting app

Started by Flem07. Last reply by Hunya Aug 4. 12 Replies

To pump or not to pump

Started by Hummingbird. Last reply by Hummingbird Apr 15. 6 Replies

Paleo types out there?

Started by Jan. Last reply by Googy Mar 21. 2 Replies

Diet confusion

Started by thompam. Last reply by Hummingbird Jan 31. 13 Replies

Diagnostic Code for LADA

Started by Meda-Kay. Last reply by Meda-Kay Dec 15, 2013. 8 Replies

False Low A1C values

Started by Mark. Last reply by Mark Nov 25, 2013. 3 Replies

Progression to insulin

Started by lubdubology. Last reply by Mark Nov 18, 2013. 16 Replies

Do I Have LADA?

Started by David (dns). Last reply by silver07 Nov 8, 2013. 13 Replies

Regulating Insulin dosing

Started by Rose. Last reply by Melitta Nov 7, 2013. 6 Replies

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Comment by lh378 on September 21, 2014 at 7:11am

Thanks Melitta!

Comment by Melitta on September 19, 2014 at 6:58pm

Intensive insulin therapy just means 3 or more injections per day to match carb intake. When I was on MDI, I did at least 5 injections per day. The more closely you can match your carb intake and maintain steady BGs (avoiding peaks and valleys), the less stress you put on your remnant beta cells.

Comment by lh378 on September 17, 2014 at 8:31pm

What is meant by intensive insulin therapy? are there other types of insulin therapy?

Comment by Melitta on September 17, 2014 at 8:09pm

I am not sure of a good source of info about the honeymoon period. Of course, the honeymoon in T1D is the period of time after diagnosis in which remnant (not destroyed) beta cells still produce some endogenous insulin. The honeymoon can be prolonged by intensive insulin therapy, avoiding spikes. I suspect that some of the newly diagnosed LADAs today can keep their honeymoons going indefinitely with all the great tools we have now (pumps, CGMs). When I was in my honeymoon, my I:C ration was 1:30.

Comment by lh378 on September 15, 2014 at 9:58pm

Where can I read more about the "honeymoon" period? and high BG toxicity to the pancreas? For the past 1+ month, my BG has been mostly in the 80-140 range. (Previously, it was much higher 100 to 250) I find that my current insulin needs are less insulin, both basal and bolus. Is that common? My I:C ratio is now higher. It was suggested at 1:15 previously. Currently it's in the range of 1: 22.

Comment by Trevs on August 8, 2014 at 3:16pm
It really comes down to doing whatever works best for your unique situation. Keep up the good work, healthy eating and active lifestyle!
Comment by Hunya on August 8, 2014 at 12:33pm

Hopefully by the time I really need insulin, the methods of treating diabetes will have created a method of inhaling it. In the meantime, it gives me a good opportunity to get fit and as healthy as a non-competitive athlete can be.

Comment by Hunya on August 8, 2014 at 12:30pm

Thank you for your understanding, AskHealthy. It is difficult being neither a straightforward type 1 or 2, partly because in my experience, health professionals react as though the patient is denying the condition when in fact that patient is really trying to work out the precise problem in order to treat it in the most appropriate manner.

When I refer to insulin dependent, I am doing so in the normal manner of health professionals, who refer to insulin dependent diabetes. I would not call somebody oxygen dependent just because they are.

When I was told I had over 2000 GAD antibodies on a scale of 0-25 I went onto a dose of 14 units of Levemir and stayed on basal insulin for 11 months, seeing it as less of a failure than bolus injections. I cannot help but see diabetes as a failure of the organism to react appropriately to food.

I am not saying bolus insulin is any different from basal in terms of influencing the immune system. If it works for you, keep going. I normally feel better the less I have to think about energy. What I do believe is that our bodies are expert adapters to new conditions. I used to enjoy eating bread, but when I learnt I had type 1 diabetes I stopped eating processed carbohydrates and bread is one of the worst culprits because ‘healthcare’ professionals encourage people to eat packaged food with numbers on the labels, when in fact natural foods are better. As I find products give me prolonged hypers, I have evicted them from my shopping list and rapidly lose interest in them.

When I began cycling, my blood sugars went down and my doctor asked me to reduce my dose of Levemir. Within a week I needed no insulin. My next HbA1c was 33 and she said that had gone down too fast (from 54) and could I get it back to 40, so I did. Don’t ask me how; it was coincidence – I may have taken a bit less exercise, or it could have been because my friend came to stay and we went out for a load of meals. It was because of him that I asked to be prescribed bolus insulin, but in practice I was able to eat as much as I liked and my blood sugar was still going down.

Then in November it shot up and I began taking just the bolus. I am not really happy with any kind of medicine and would like to wean myself off insulin. That is my ultimate objective.

Comment by Trevs on August 8, 2014 at 8:44am
I'm not sure there is any hard evidence that suggests the introduction of outside insulin actually diminishes your pancreas's ability to produce its own insulin. What we do know is that not having enough insulin as a Type 1 diabetic is a bad thing, and that exercise and diet can delay the onset of Type 2 diabetes. I tend to rely on what we already know about this disease and how we treat it, while keeping an eye on the research that looks at alternative treatments and insights into the disease. I mean, who would have thought two years ago, for example, that a small and gradual introduction of peanuts to a person hyper-allergic to peanuts would be a possible therapy? It's all very exciting and I'm almost certain new technologies and approaches for the management and treatment of diabetes is just around the corner. So my advice is to try to remain optimistic and do the best you can with what we already know.
Comment by AskHealthy on August 8, 2014 at 6:52am

So, I know that I am dependent on insulin, as we all are, but I would prefer not to be dependent on exogenous insulin. I'm sure everyone can agree that the functioning pancreas is better at regulating blood sugars than we are with our novolog, apidra, etc. Type 1s, as much as they count and dose correctly, I've found there are inevitable highs and lows. In my own experience, I believe I am preserving my remaining beta cells with the levemir and no use of rapid insulin. This is more convenient for me as well. I don't have the inconvenience of dosing, carrying around the insulin, or taking numerous shots all day long. All I'm saying is that it appears that when I use rapid insulin, my remaining beta cells take a vacation and subsequent meals are harder for my body to handle. I'd rather just eat low carb and maintain normal blood sugars without exogenous rapid insulin. I feel like if I start using the rapid regularly, it's bye bye to my very fortunate situation where I don't need to rely on it.

Hunya -- maybe you should reduce your basal insulin on days that you think you are going to be exercising a lot? If that's every day, then maybe you just need to either reduce it a bit or make sure you eat a snack before working out?

 

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