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Realist Diabetics

For atheists and agnostics who don't rely on a "high power" to get through diabetes.

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"Faith" (small "f") ... about diabetes things.... required?

Started by Stuart. Last reply by Stuart Sep 28, 2013. 20 Replies

Belief in a thing, a concept, a cause and effect relationship between an action and the outcome that action guarantees. No higher power here... where do you, AS A DIABETIC... where do you find HOPE…Continue

Tags: failed, fail, faith, false, complications

Are we in the closet?

Started by Gerri. Last reply by lotsofshots Nov 27, 2011. 12 Replies

Perhaps because of anti-Semitic remarks that upset me, or because my family felt religious beliefs to be a highly personal subject, I never spoke of my religion unless asked. No prime directive to…Continue

Refuting Intelligent Design (God giving us diabeties)

Started by srfitzger. Last reply by Stuart Oct 2, 2011. 11 Replies

So your friend tells you god created everything and chose you to get diabeties. What do you say to them?When I have these conversations with the "belivers" the only thing I try and do is present the…Continue

Stem cells from adults

Started by Robert Miles. Last reply by Natalie ._c- Mar 18, 2011. 1 Reply

I expect stem cells to be easier to use as a cure once researchers uncover ways to produce all types of needed stem cells from tissue that an adult won't miss. If it's from the same person that needs…Continue

Tags: adult, cells, stem

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Comment by Doris D on February 27, 2011 at 8:41pm
I've thought about breaking it off. Poor old lady (though I've gotten to where I think ppl just get tired of her rambeling will I am anyway) She has left me holding the bag too many times with this god crap and she NOWS how I feel about it so she's trying to change my point of view. Sorry that won't happen.
Comment by srfitzger on February 27, 2011 at 6:06pm
It's funny the people who "know" they are right about their religion don't realize if they were born in another part of the world, they would believe in something different. That fact alone should make them question their faith and if its the "right" one.

Heres a map of the worlds religion by location

http://www.wadsworth.com/religion_d/special_features/popups/maps/ma...
Comment by Natalie ._c- on February 27, 2011 at 5:47pm
I might be nasty to say this, but maybe it's time to cut off the friendship. It's not nurturing you, just steaming you up. You're worth better than that. There are enough people in this world who will value you for who you are, and who will not intrude on your values, even if they disagree (I have several deeply religious Christian friends, including a Mormon, who NEVER pester me about religion).
You need to think about just what the pros and cons of this friendship are, and act accordingly. Good Luck!
Comment by Doris D on February 27, 2011 at 2:59pm
Hey Natalie I've tried too many times with her. She says "All I've had in my life is God and He's helped me through" Hey wait I thought you had a son and daughter and 2 g-kids "But they don't know me. The only reason they want to come to TN. (the daughter & the g-kids live in Florida) is to see snow. They don't want to see me" I get so tired of hearing this. She does it ALL THE TIME to me then gets upset with me when I try to change the subject on her. "What hasn't god helped you through life?" Juat got off the phone with her and heard it all again.
Comment by Natalie ._c- on February 26, 2011 at 9:03pm
Doris, it's OK to let off steam. It's very hard to deal with people who KNOW they're right! Your friend probably just wants to save your soul (in her mind, a good thing), and doesn't and will not understand that there is no such thing. Probably best to steer away from religious discussions with her.

Religious discussions can be fun with people who are open-minded, and accept that you are who you are, and who are more interested in trading information than converting you. But your friend is not one of these people! Quick, change the subject!
Comment by Doris D on February 26, 2011 at 2:44pm
The way I look at things I'M NOT A MISTAKE!!!!!!! For me anyway church and it's "belifes" are just rumers. Who know's maybe I'm wrong but whatever! I find that most ppl can't be moved in what they belive. OK Let me belive what I want! I let you do so! (pointed at my very religous friend that wants to convert me) Sorry just letting off steam after I got off the phone.
Comment by Steve D on February 26, 2011 at 2:11pm
My wife, GAyle, and I are both what we call "spirtual Athiests" and open minded for sure, but the enire 'religious' thing has just set me off. Especially since I was raised strict Roman Catholkic, and had a mother who was convinced that my T1 was a "punishment" for something....and she used to tell me, go ahead and go to confession and maybe this whole thing will just "go away". Even worse, she once made me go with her to a "faith healer" which I sat through for 2 hours watching people throw their hands about and speak in "toungs" running up to this schiester begging him for help. I just couldnt take it anymore.
Comment by SF Pete on February 26, 2011 at 1:42pm
I know of several people who are obviously a mistake. I cannot blame a superior being for someone being the kind of person they are. Like they say, the blood tells. These mistakes, and you all know them, are an obvious refutation to the whole "God" thing. Seriously. Glenn Beck? Really? A mistake of birth is just that. More's the pity, really.
Comment by acidrock23 on February 25, 2011 at 6:54am
"What? Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?" Nietzsche, "Twilight of the Idols"
Comment by Natalie ._c- on February 23, 2011 at 5:28pm
I think, in my next life, I wanna be GOD. It must be nice never to make a mistake, LOL!!
 

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