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Comment by JRod on February 28, 2012 at 8:34pm

Cristalyn, I commented just before your first comment,, and as a southern type 2 diabetic, also from Baton Rouge and still living here, I can't imagine what your problem is with the video and no, I don't see color when I see diabetes so I won't give one race more credibility on the subject than another. I don't agree with every aspect of the video, but I'm certainly not offended.

Comment by Doris D on February 4, 2012 at 7:28pm

I've got to inject here Christalynn. Yes I'm a Type 1 and I grew up around MANY Type 2's. Manny the Type 1.5's I didn't but in all cases I TRY to understand sometimes I get it sometimes I don't but atleast I try. I grew up in the South and ate alot of the Southern cooking. I don't think that Manny has insulted anything Southern. Try and listen to what other's say it's a real eye opener if u do. I agree with Manny ur NOT a spokesperson for all Type 2's here. I have many ppl who I call my friends both here on TuDiabetes and at home who are Type 2's

Comment by LaGuitariste on February 2, 2012 at 6:42pm

I've always felt welcome on TuDiabetes and I greatly value the help I have received from everyone, especially Gerri. I didn't find anything offensive, condescending or upsetting in the video. I saw it more as an effort to remind us all to stop ragging on one-another and to acknowledge that we each become knowledgeable and make lifestyle changes in our own way and on our own time-table.

For the record, I am also a Type 2 born in New Orleans and raised in Baton Rouge. Go figure. :0)

Comment by Manny Hernandez on February 1, 2012 at 1:01pm

Christalyn,
Feel free to write to me at manny@diabeteshf.org any time with any suggestions to make the community better and more welcoming to people with type 2 diabetes. This is something we strive to accomplish all the time.

Thanks.

Comment by Christalyn on February 1, 2012 at 8:31am

Of course we should be able to disagree without being disagreeable to quote Legendary civil right leader MLK.

I am always prepared to be questioned on anything I put in a public forum. I actually encourage it. However, please find that email is really a cold and icy way of communicating. You can not hear or see my facial expressions on the inflection in my voice to better determine if I am being relaxed or fired up. I normally assume most people are relaxed unless they make it super obvious like the use of all CAPS like I originally did.

I prefer to have this conversation with you or with emily personally than to have every person chime in because they didn't do the video.

"We should not be judging Paula Deen or the neighbor next door.
Do you disagree with this statement? Do you feel it is OK to judge her or anyone else for coming out? We do not feel it is OK to judge anyone coming out with type 2 (or any type of diabetes, for that matter).

This is not one of the items that I having issue with in your video. I am no sure why I am being asked this. Coming out as a Type 2 is not a issue. Some how you might be missing my point. I have written on my blog about my feelings toward Paula Deen diagnosis. I didn't even discuss her diabetes. I really could care less about Paula Deen. Rumour of her diagnoses was in the trade papers 2-3 years ago. But to answer your question. Nobody should be judging anybody accept on their actions and the content of their character.

"We need more advocates, more people with type 2 diabetes, to come out, own their disease, state it, say that they have it and start advocating on their behalf and on behalf of the entire diabetic community at large."

Wholeheartedly yes! But the question is do you as a Type 1.5 or a person touched by diabetes understand why there aren't a flood of Type 2 coming out and owning their disease? What I am trying to convey is there are definite reasons why Type 2's don't where their condition on their sleeve. Till is understood and solutions to those issues are solved or worked on....The internet will have less Type 2 involvement for at least the next 10 years. Don't you think it is unusual that 90% of diabetics are Type 2 but less than 10% have a presence online?

At least on this site Type 2's get lost in the mix. I am tired of hearing answers form Type 1's with a problem I put on a Type 2 board. Normally its just conjecture based on them...a Type 1. It doesn't help my Type 2 body. I have heard from several Type 2's that they find this social forum unfriendly to Type 2. So they don't wish to make a contribution.

"I don't see how Manny and Emily can talk to my experience about being a Type 2 diabetic then tell me they are doing Type 2 advocacy."
At the end of the working together or separate either of you are not qualified to speak for Type 2. I have already stated I have to much respect for the Type 1 experience to speak for or to pretend like I understand it intimately. I rather see some one more like me.

As stated earlier, I think you are missing some points of mine. Because your questions are very generic and don't focus on what I have mentioned before.

I happy this site is hear but I don't condone the less than friendly Type 2 environment.

Comment by Manny Hernandez on January 31, 2012 at 5:30pm

Chrystalin,
You certainly have a right (which you have made use of) to express your opinion and disagree with me (or anyone on TuDiabetes), as long as you continue to do su in a respectful way. Respect and diversity are at the core of our values as a community: people don't have to agree at all times, as long as they do so in a civilized manner. This acknowledges that civilized discourse is the basis of society and people with different experiences will have different stories to share, from which we can all learn.

However, I hope you don't expect your points of view to go unquestioned when the comments you are making seem to be partly misinformed or slightly one-sided. That is part of what happens when you participate in a public forum: you put yourself out there (just like we did in the video) and you are bound to receive feedback, some of which can agree with the points you make and some of which will not.

I have just watched the video above once more. I would like to ask you a few questions in connection with it:

"We should not be judging Paula Deen or the neighbor next door.

Do you disagree with this statement? Do you feel it is OK to judge her or anyone else for coming out? We do not feel it is OK to judge anyone coming out with type 2 (or any type of diabetes, for that matter).

"We need more advocates, more people with type 2 diabetes, to come out, own their disease, state it, say that they have it and start advocating on their behalf and on behalf of the entire diabetic community at large."

Do you think we don't need more type 2 advocates, that more people with type 2 diabetes come out about their disease? Is this not a fact? Do you know how many members we have in the Diabetes Advocates program? 64. Do you know how many of them have type 2 diabetes themselves? Only 3! Why would that fact that a person with type 1 diabetes and a person with LADA are making this statement (that we need more type 2 advocates) make it any less true?

You say:

"I don't see how Manny and Emily can talk to my experience about being a Type 2 diabetic then tell me they are doing Type 2 advocacy."

We believe (and this belief is shared by more than 95% of the hundreds of members who replied to a survey we did just over a year ago) that we have a lot more to gain as a community (with type 1 and type 2 diabetes joining forces and learning from each other) than by working separately. Do you disagree with this? Do you believe we are better off parting paths and each working on their own?

"I am merely trying to find the connection in more advocacy for Type 2's and traveling the world. Help me understand..." I have already replied to this statement below. You seem to want to hear an answer that only speaks about people with type 2 diabetes from someone with type 2 diabetes and I can't provide that b/c I don't have type 2 diabetes and because our focus goes beyond type 2 or type 1.

This is a community for ALL people touched by diabetes: type 1, type 2, LADA's, loved ones... white, black, asian, hispanic, native american... everyone.

P.S. We don't have any special plans for Black History Month, just like we didn't have any special plans for Hispanic Heritage Month. We will be happy to support any ideas you have.

Comment by Christalyn on January 31, 2012 at 12:32pm

That is the link from another page with this same question and not from this video page. My bad...I didn't know I was suppose link up different pages to this video. Again dancing with the stars w/o a star. I don't see how Manny and Emily can talk to my experience about being a Type 2 diabetic then tell me they are doing Type 2 advocacy.
I am not getting the connection.

Doesn't seem anybody is interest in dialogue as to why I find this video condescending. I think reacting to opinions is easier. :) So much for a learning opportunity.

By the way what is being done for Type 2 awareness and advocacy? I have asked this 3 times with no answer...Please advise.

By the way what are we doing For Black History Month to celebrate the accomplishment that Black Diabetics have done? Please advise.....

Comment by jrtpup on January 31, 2012 at 9:55am

There doesn't need to be any specific type in this video. It represents TuDiabetes - not Manny and Emily.

Comment by jrtpup on January 31, 2012 at 9:53am

Here you go Christalyn Our views about Paula Deen and coming out with type 2 diabetes

Comment by Travis Grubbs on January 31, 2012 at 9:28am

I think Manny & Emily are credible enough sources. Especially Manny with his distiguishing looking facial hair.

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